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Post by os on May 3, 2019 22:46:52 GMT
There's a wide but nuanced range of views on this forum about our new manager. Fifty shades of Gray? There is also some complete crap too. We had 11 years under 1 regime, we had all got comfortable with that, and I mean all from top to bottom. There are many on this forum who haven't (that's not a pun) even known life without Dos at the helm. Is Matt the right decision? Only time will tell, at the moment no ones knows, be that the board or even Matt himself, but we are all going to find out soon enough. All we can do is offer support to him and except he is not Dos, but a completely new man who will make the team his own. I suspect if the board had selected Arsene Wenger some would have suggested he was washed up. What is positive is that he is prepared to make swift changes, knows we have been lacking going forward and wants to change that. The skill lies in being able to do that on the budget set by the club? People should remember that as good as Dos was he used to start most season's poorly, improving as it went, and supporters need to allow Matt the same wingle room.
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Post by trev on May 3, 2019 22:53:50 GMT
What gets me are the smart arse comments that only a few similarly educated people would understand. But surely permitted in the London Borough of Sutton which has preserved its grammar schools. At which smart-arsery is taught (or was when I attended one) and pupils prepared for elevation to a higher seat of learning.
Also in the far off days when Sutton's players were amateurs and mostly from local homes several were former grammar school pupils and one or two were masters.
How anyone could see education as something negative is quite frankly baffling. Having lived in an impoverished area for several years where the quality of schooling was poor and levels of crime and social deprivation were correspondingly high, I have to say I've found moving to Sutton a breath of fresh air.
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Post by baboonfish on May 4, 2019 0:24:23 GMT
What gets me are the smart arse comments that only a few similarly educated people would understand. But surely permitted in the London Borough of Sutton which has preserved its grammar schools. At which smart-arsery is taught (or was when I attended one) and pupils prepared for elevation to a higher seat of learning. Also in the far off days when Sutton's players were amateurs and mostly from local homes several were former grammar school pupils and one or two were masters.
I can tell you a bit about that, having gone to Sutton grammar / manor, but you're not going to like any of it.... John Rains was, during a short coaching stint between playing and managing, happy to sit in his camper van smoking cigars pretending to teach football while the young chaps in his 'care ' rolled around in the northey avenue mud playing the sort of football unattended 12 year old boys would do uncoached on a full size pitch Steve Bangs was my PE teacher and only interested in coaching the most athletic kids and (successfully I'll add) improving Sutton grammar's first team to help inflate his ego rather than the self worth of any of his charges. The man had literally zero interest in engaging any child who wasnt naturally sporty. I also went to school with Matt Fowler who was quite frankly one of the most unpleasant kids in my year group, could not bring myself to watch the team whilst he was in it. Thats all fact whether you believe it or not, but people are people and to be fair I wasn't a very nice teenager either. I think with reflection there's something to be said from having a modicum of distance from a local community and its football team!
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Post by backhome2016 on May 4, 2019 6:35:31 GMT
As a balance to Baboonfish’s school day recollections, I too attended Sutton Manor (early 70s) and was lucky enough to have Ted Powell as my PE teacher. I found him encouraging and inclusive. Larry Pritchard would drop by for a bit of football sometimes although I cannot remember too much about him to comment further.
As for our new manager, he surely needs a couple of seasons (minimum) before any firm conclusions can be drawn, although such timescales seem to be anathema nowadays. I’m assuming that this season will be one of inconsistency due to a new squad as much as a new manager, but hope to be proved wrong.
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Post by markf on May 4, 2019 13:49:30 GMT
In today's DM, Scott Parker talks about how another former Sutton Manor sports master, Keith Blunt, was very hard on him at Lilleshall but said it did him a lot of good.
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Post by davethegrave on Oct 22, 2019 20:57:29 GMT
Honestly I don't take any pleasure in this but he really isn't up to the job. Just to set the record straight I don't want Matt sacked. I'd love to see him turn things around. It's stressful enough recruiting as it is. We support the team. But I and several other people I know just wonder why he doesn't see the obvious problems and learn from them. As Mark says he'd be more worried if the players weren't seen to be trying. We can see that they are and that they care.
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