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Post by Andy K on Oct 13, 2019 9:48:15 GMT
When was the last time a game of ours has been called off due to similar circumstances?
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Post by markf on Oct 13, 2019 10:05:10 GMT
When was the last time a game of ours has been called off due to similar circumstances? For train delay or cancellation it would be Darlington in the late 80's. High winds brought the overhead cables down. The supporters' coach got all the way; no mobile phones back then.
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Post by medwaysider on Oct 13, 2019 10:17:28 GMT
Obviously nobody can legislate for what closed the line today and other teams found themselves in the same boat. But relying on trains at any time for an important appointment is never ideal,and yeah, almost every away team at GGL seems to arrive on a coach. Takes away any jeopardy. No idea if a fine is coming our way, as much as it couldn't be helped, sutton(and others) could be accused of not making adequate plans If a fine was forthcoming could this not be passed onto the rail company or track operator ? You'd like to think so, but squeezing any money out of Virgin or Network Rail will probably be like trying to get blood out of a stone, particularly if there's nothing they could have done to prevent it. As others have said there's no guarantee when travelling anywhere though. You know what it's like if there's a serious pile up on the motorway network, you're basically looking at a minimum of 3 hours before you'll be moving again.
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Post by ggl on Oct 13, 2019 11:06:42 GMT
Too true . Perhaps flying would be better , there again what with drones , pilot strikes, protestors climbing onto planes etc perhaps not !!
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Post by Stewart on Oct 13, 2019 13:12:51 GMT
Do clubs get compensation from the league when games are postponed?
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Post by Stewart on Oct 13, 2019 13:17:36 GMT
Interesting club statement from Dover regarding their postponed game. . link
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Post by jr on Oct 13, 2019 13:54:45 GMT
Just got back from Blackpool. Wonderful weekend. Some of us took in Blackpool v Rotherham which was a cracking game and then a night out on the town
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Post by Amber Aleman on Oct 13, 2019 14:05:21 GMT
Interesting club statement from Dover regarding their postponed game. . linkDover might have been better to have waited a while rather than rushing out a statement on the day of the postponement. This smacks of something drafted in the heat of the moment. Whereas some individuals associated with Barrow have reportedly made offensive comments about the postponement, at least one of the claims in the statement is disputed. I am glad that our club shows more dignity and restraint in the face of a difficult situation like this.
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Post by medwaysider on Oct 13, 2019 14:09:30 GMT
Interesting club statement from Dover regarding their postponed game. . linkInteresting read and rightly puts a sport into context in comparison to the loss of a life. It does seem that Barrow have a larger than average reactionary, vacuous element to their support for this level and when club officials join in, that's a real concern. I note that it's a complete volte face from their response to the postponement we suffered up there the other season why we were all collectively told to dry our eyes like good little snowflakes because we don't understand what it's like to live in their micro climate and anyway "that's what happens when you play on a proper grass pitch". Seem to remember one of their fans was posting on here a while after that. To say he was intellectually unencumbered would be an understatement.
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Post by billy on Oct 13, 2019 21:26:29 GMT
Having a National League at this level is absolutely ludicrous.Barrow v Dover - what's that all about? What time would the Dover players (and staff) have got up to do the trip on the day ?
Most of the teams in this league,including Sutton United,cannot afford to be there.Look at the away supporters at these games.It's usually,with the possible exception of some ex league clubs,a small handful,mostly single blokes with no families/children to worry about who can go missing for a whole day every couple of weeks to far flung outposts of England to watch this stuff.Normal people can't go to many away games any more.
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Post by billy on Oct 13, 2019 21:33:35 GMT
What great preparation ! The players are expected to perform after getting up when the birds start singing ,making their way to a London Railway Station and then sitting on a train for four and a half hours.
LUDICROUS..........................
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Post by Rambo on Oct 13, 2019 22:44:07 GMT
Having a National League at this level is absolutely ludicrous.Barrow v Dover - what's that all about? What time would the Dover players (and staff) have got up to do the trip on the day ? Most of the teams in this league,including Sutton United,cannot afford to be there.Look at the away supporters at these games.It's usually,with the possible exception of some ex league clubs,a small handful,mostly single blokes with no families/children to worry about who can go missing for a whole day every couple of weeks to far flung outposts of England to watch this stuff.Normal people can't go to many away games any more. SO, what are you saying Billy, that the Football League need to also restructure League 2 into North and South again like it was in the 1957-58 Season , because that would have to happen in order to stop "Northern" Teams being dropped down into a "Southern" National League Division if that was created !! Having read what was happening 'live' via Twitter on Saturday, and learning that "we" weren't the only team affected by the fatality at Milton Keynes, I have to say I'm flabbergasted by some of the things I've seen written on Twitter by "fans" of the 'Home' teams affected by the cancellations that occurred...they conveniently don't seem to realise that the majority of National League teams aren't "Full Time" staff, and therefore have jobs to go to, in order to pay their bills, meaning they physically 'can't' travel up the day before as has been suggested !
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Post by os on Oct 13, 2019 23:19:33 GMT
Do clubs get compensation from the league when games are postponed? I can't see that, as far as the league is concerned clubs are contractually obliged to fulfill their fixtures on a given day unless they get permission from the league to postpone a match. As harsh as it may seem I am not sure if the 3 away clubs are actually technically in breach of league rules (38.9 it could be?). That could mean a fine, or even forfeit of the match - Of course the league would need to be barking mad to impose such sanctions, but then sanity has not always been their biggest asset. Don't shoot me
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Post by Del on Oct 14, 2019 7:48:06 GMT
Having a National League at this level is absolutely ludicrous.Barrow v Dover - what's that all about? What time would the Dover players (and staff) have got up to do the trip on the day ? Most of the teams in this league,including Sutton United,cannot afford to be there.Look at the away supporters at these games.It's usually,with the possible exception of some ex league clubs,a small handful,mostly single blokes with no families/children to worry about who can go missing for a whole day every couple of weeks to far flung outposts of England to watch this stuff.Normal people can't go to many away games any more. Actually its not quite as bad as you put it although a regionalised National League with League 2 makes more sense. There are only about 10 long distance journeys during the season and believe it or not supporters enjoy travelling to these different grounds. Its not just single blokes with no families and i often take my wife & son to them and visit new cities & towns for the weekend.
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Post by Andy K on Oct 14, 2019 8:25:45 GMT
Having a National League at this level is absolutely ludicrous.Barrow v Dover - what's that all about? What time would the Dover players (and staff) have got up to do the trip on the day ? Most of the teams in this league,including Sutton United,cannot afford to be there.Look at the away supporters at these games.It's usually,with the possible exception of some ex league clubs,a small handful,mostly single blokes with no families/children to worry about who can go missing for a whole day every couple of weeks to far flung outposts of England to watch this stuff.Normal people can't go to many away games any more. Aside from your wildly inaccurate assumptions regarding the type of fan that goes to away games, there's one small nugget in there which may have some validity - and that is that smaller clubs struggle to compete at this level. But to be frank that is the minority rather than the majority. Half of the sides in the league are ex-football league so are set up for this national travelling, a number of others such as Solihull, Fylde etc have the budgets to cope with that which leaves a few of us (Maidenhead, Chorley to name a couple of others) where the hit is bigger. As others have said, this amounts to a few trips per year. And a number of us (including me) use it to make a weekend of things. Even in regional leagues, you can have long trips - in the South we played Truro for example - pretty much the same distance as our trip to Barrow, yet in a regional league. If teams have ambition, they want to play at the highest level they can. As for your classic "Normal people can't go to many away games any more", then you've just described virtually any fan of any club who regularly goes to away games as not normal, not just Sutton, and is viewed by me and probably by others on there with the contempt it thoroughly deserves.
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