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Post by mca on Oct 20, 2019 19:35:06 GMT
Thanks again for your indefatigable positivity and enthusiasm. Always appreciated. I realise that being Multi-lingual you probably don't have a grasp of any of them. What I was saying was that with the way they're playing at the moment and that you have to pay, many season ticket holders wouldn't turn up. I was there though.I don't know what the actual attendance was. Was it announced? 789
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Post by markf on Oct 20, 2019 19:35:25 GMT
I can recall a season some years back, not 07/08, when a section of the fan base began giving serious stick to the manager at matches. He was one of the most experienced manager/coaches this club has ever had and went on to enjoy a varied career after he left Sutton.
We got relegated that season. The protesting did us no favours as for a club the size of Sutton that sort of atmosphere can be disabling. There hasn't been any of that yet at matches this season mainly because social media has become the place to air views.
We didn't fail to win yesterday because we stopped attacking. Their goal came from a Sutton attack via a free-kick. We didn't win because Alan Julian was inspired and also because we couldn't finish the chances and failed to defend one set piece. Not sure the manager can do much about that (and no, Dylan Kearney is not the answer). Players make mistakes at all levels and it seems we're getting punished for them. Taking Dos purely as a manager of the team, he made errors too, as did his players.
I'd be more concerned if the team was turning up and not putting in a performance week in week out which is not the case. That suggests they are playing with pride for themselves, the manager and the club. When that stops happening then I will worry.
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Post by billy on Oct 20, 2019 21:08:34 GMT
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If my sums are correct ,the average home attendance for league matches this season is 1,666.Where were the missing 800 plus on Saturday ? Is it becoming too expensive for people to attend ?
On that subject i have been asked to enquire about the cost of a transfer to the stand.A good few people brought up the subject in the area i sit on Saturday,not,i hasten to add,instigated by me !
Those who pay the three quid at the beginning are wondering (in more numbers than ever before) why others who don't pay a penny are free to walk in just before,during and after the half time interval.
At what point,if it continues to go up by a pound a season as has been the case in the last two years,will the club think about putting a stop to it ? Perhaps someone "in charge" could address this.Thanks very much.
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Post by markf on Oct 20, 2019 21:19:53 GMT
FA Cup qualifying match attendances are well down on those of league fixtures accept where one of the smaller clubs is making a rare appearance at that stage. Many ST holders decide not to attend for whatever reason. If you look at 3rd round attaendances they are generally down too. Just the way it is nowadays. Not unusual to SUFC it is across the board.
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Post by billy on Oct 20, 2019 23:25:18 GMT
Compliments to the DJ by the way.......................
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Post by pinewalker on Oct 20, 2019 23:33:12 GMT
I was just thinking that. Tony never asks searching questions. Is he frightened of upsetting MG? To respond on Tony’s behalf.... It’s very difficult to go beyond and ask difficult questions when you have to build a relationship with the manager on a weekly basis. Tony also talks to Matt (he did so with Paul D) on a weekly basis for the match day programme. To illustrate using myself as an example: I worked at BBC Southampton for a few seasons and interviewed Harry Redknapp on a regular basis - your job was to build a relationship and trust with the manager and very occasionally the odd difficult question (Harry had a right pop at me once - I’ll tell that story another time). Now I work on the national circuit I find it so much easier to ask searching questions post match to managers because I might not see them again for a few months or even until next season. So you can ask difficult questions and not concern yourself with building relationships. Hope that explanation helps a touch. There is one benefit Tony D has from doing the interview after every match. If he has heard the same explanation of the players failings before, he could follow up with "You said that last week / you have been saying that for several weeks. What are you doing about it?" Two examples come to mind: we are giving away headed goals from corners and free kicks; our shooting at goal is woeful. Matt has acknowledged that in several interviews and there does not seem to be any improvement in either weakness, so it would be a reasonable follow up question.
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Post by steviem on Oct 21, 2019 4:07:08 GMT
One goal in 7 and half hours should say something? Today we bossed the match, were far stronger and should have won at a canter, yet we found ourselves with the prospect of a replay. Why: - Woeful in front of goal. - Poor officials - Poor Tactics To create that many clear cut opening and miss them all shows clearly the strikers are not good enough - End Of. That was the most obvious pass back I have seen, a pass back becomes deliberate the moment the defender shields the ball and keep picks it up - End of. The decision to take Tommy off for the last 10mins was shocker, TW is made for the role of lone forward in exactly those circumstances. As soon as that threat was removed it allowed Ricay the freedom to come forward. Well the tactics had worked pretty well up until then and we should have been out of sight. Taking Tommy off did not allow Billericay to push forward as they were already doing that. So the substitution was a response, a Plan B if you like, and the sort of change that you will see managers making the world over. What Matt also did, as I'm sure you noticed, was tell Harry to play further forward, which led to the "back pass" incident, so I'd say that tactic worked pretty well too, wouldn't you?
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Post by Andy K on Oct 21, 2019 9:20:06 GMT
It's worth remembering that in terms of Matt being an "inexperienced manager", O'Hara at Billericay has less games under his belt as a first team manager.
Worth noting as well, K's went to Dartford as the lower ranked side and won. Chichester went to Bowers and Pitsea and did the same. Belper (3 divisions below) gave Notts County a fright. Wealdstone went to Maidenhead and got a replay. Potters Bar are still in the draw as 2 divisions about Barnet didn't do the job.
Need I even mention Burgess Hill Town or Alton Town? That's the FA Cup. Those who think that we had a divine right to beat Billericay because they are in the division below probably should forget we ever beat Leeds, AFC Wimbledon, Forest Green, Cheltenham or gave a decent account of ourselves against a top Premier League side.
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Post by mca on Oct 21, 2019 9:35:22 GMT
It's worth remembering that in terms of Matt being an "inexperienced manager", O'Hara at Billericay has less games under his belt as a first team manager. Worth noting as well, K's went to Dartford as the lower ranked side and won. Chichester went to Bowers and Pitsea and did the same. Belper (3 divisions below) gave Notts County a fright. Wealdstone went to Maidenhead and got a replay. Potters Bar are still in the draw as 2 divisions about Barnet didn't do the job. Need I even mention Burgess Hill Town or Alton Town? That's the FA Cup. Those who think that we had a divine right to beat Billericay because they are in the division below probably should forget we ever beat Leeds, AFC Wimbledon, Forest Green, Cheltenham or gave a decent account of ourselves against a top Premier League side. it's almost a standard response to fans asking questions or worried about what's going on at this, our club. Saying "Look over there" is meaningless.
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Post by Andy K on Oct 21, 2019 9:54:12 GMT
It's worth remembering that in terms of Matt being an "inexperienced manager", O'Hara at Billericay has less games under his belt as a first team manager. Worth noting as well, K's went to Dartford as the lower ranked side and won. Chichester went to Bowers and Pitsea and did the same. Belper (3 divisions below) gave Notts County a fright. Wealdstone went to Maidenhead and got a replay. Potters Bar are still in the draw as 2 divisions about Barnet didn't do the job. Need I even mention Burgess Hill Town or Alton Town? That's the FA Cup. Those who think that we had a divine right to beat Billericay because they are in the division below probably should forget we ever beat Leeds, AFC Wimbledon, Forest Green, Cheltenham or gave a decent account of ourselves against a top Premier League side. it's almost a standard response to fans asking questions or worried about what's going on at this, our club. Saying "Look over there" is meaningless. I'm talking about in the context of this game (which is what the thread is about). Others are coming in and making judgements on Matt's season. I'm not one of those and I'm keeping it relevant to what happened on Saturday. We fail to do the job on Tuesday then Matt's job will get much harder with the 12 or so grand we'd be missing out on. There's enough people on here (and on social media) who are either supporting the manager fully or want him out. I don't need to add anything to that debate, especially on a matter I have no control over. I will be at Billericay tomorrow night and judging on what I saw of them on Saturday, even with our current form I'm a lot less worried than I was when we went to Slough last year.
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Post by ambertaff on Oct 21, 2019 17:51:50 GMT
Compliments to the DJ by the way....................... I agree - but disappointed that we didn't play another number from the same era - a certain song by Ian Drury could have raised a few laughs. As it was , the Billericay supporters whom I asked whether they thought they were "Doing very well" this season just looked blank....
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Post by halftimet on Oct 22, 2019 20:31:06 GMT
15 minutes from going out of the cup and the last substitution as the previous two are like for like. Arrgh!
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Post by davethegrave on Oct 22, 2019 20:49:17 GMT
FA Cup qualifying match attendances are well down on those of league fixtures accept where one of the smaller clubs is making a rare appearance at that stage. Many ST holders decide not to attend for whatever reason. If you look at 3rd round attaendances they are generally down too. Just the way it is nowadays. Not unusual to SUFC it is across the board. Unless of course we'd been playing well previously.
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Post by davethegrave on Oct 22, 2019 20:52:48 GMT
Compliments to the DJ by the way....................... I agree - but disappointed that we didn't play another number from the same era - a certain song by Ian Drury could have raised a few laughs. As it was , the Billericay supporters whom I asked whether they thought they were "Doing very well" this season just looked blank....
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