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Post by halftimet on Oct 29, 2019 22:08:48 GMT
What was that all about? 1-0 down. Take off your right back and put a midfield player at right back. I know I keep on about this but we never change our shape all L4L substitutions yet again. Had almost no chances second half. Halifax were in charge.
What game do you see our next points coming from?
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billy
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Post by billy on Oct 29, 2019 22:44:13 GMT
Money does not grow on trees banjo.To use one of your favourite expressions - get over it.
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Post by ggl on Oct 29, 2019 22:45:10 GMT
I have previously called for MG to go but as has been carefully explained by people in the know that is not as easy as it sounds because of the lack of budget and the probable payment in full of his contract . I will therefore refrain from making this suggestion again ...... for now .
What I will say though is that the current pressure on the team and MG to get a result at home Is growing with every match and must now weigh heavily on them all . We can only hope that they might currently find away matches slightly easier to perform in because the weight of expectation will be less . Less fans to get on their backs and less expectation of a win .
That is my hope for our team and management but please don’t expect a prediction from me as to where and when this transformation will occur !
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Post by ggl on Oct 29, 2019 22:48:11 GMT
Just had a thought ....... how long is MG’s contract ?
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Post by Andy K on Oct 29, 2019 23:13:15 GMT
Just had a thought ....... how long is MG’s contract ? Good point. I did look back at the news stories and couldn't find the length written down, so I'm presuming 2 years (hence why disposing of his services now will be such a big blow to the budget).
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Post by Amber Aleman on Oct 29, 2019 23:33:57 GMT
No really a great deal to say about the match. Halifax were nothing special, but left with three points, which is becoming a familiar story. We had plenty of first-half possession, and won plenty of corners, but hardly tested their keeper, the ball into the box too often over-hit or comfortably dealt with by their defence. About the closest we came was a Milsom free kick that the keeper tipped over. They scored in a rare second-half attack, a cross being met by an unmarked player at the far post whose shot beat Butler. After that they sat back to protect the lead and we couldn't break them down, our best chance coming when a late corner hit the bar and was then cleared off the line. That result keeps us fourth-bottom of the league table but we're now propping up the form table. Few things are certain in football, but it's now looking very much as if we're heading for the drop unless there's a change in personnel (I'm not going to be more specific than that) which brings about an improvement in results. The stats make painful reading.
No win in our last eight games (two draws, six defeats) Only three wins all season (out of twenty league and Cup games) Only one home win since March Only three clean sheets since February
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Post by garethl on Oct 29, 2019 23:34:37 GMT
Might not be economically viable. Matt Gray might leave but he is on a contract and that would mean less money to get in a successor. Conference South might be Sutton's level. It has been a good ride up until now and there is the possibility of a return. I am sorry but if teams such as Maidenhead and Bromley can play at National level, I don't buy that. Our problem is poor defending and and abysmal shooting, yes a tad of hard luck too, but as they say you make your own luck. Think both clubs have plenty of cash being thrown at them, particularly Bromley!
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Post by garethl on Oct 29, 2019 23:35:45 GMT
Unreal really. Halifax probably showed as little as any team have ever done coming to our ground and have walked away with 3 pts. Tragic.
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Post by pinewalker on Oct 29, 2019 23:47:06 GMT
Just had a thought ....... how long is MG’s contract ? Good point. I did look back at the news stories and couldn't find the length written down, so I'm presuming 2 years (hence why disposing of his services now will be such a big blow to the budget). I have no idea what clauses might be in a Sutton manager's contract, but a Championship club manager's contract was revealed in court last year and it contained a dismissal clause based on league position in the relegation places before the end of the season. I can't imagine any football manager gets a contract with a guaranteed salary for two years, totally irrespective of performance.
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Post by os on Oct 29, 2019 23:49:25 GMT
Money does not grow on trees banjo.To use one of your favourite expressions - get over it. No Billy it doesn't you have to go out and earn it, or you cut your cloth accordingly. I overwhelmingly believe the message from the club is saying the latter, I don't see any momentum from the top suggesting they want the club to stay and compete at this level. I am not going to open a can of worms saying if that is right or wrong, but the body language seems to suggest, and in fact the chairman's own words after Dos's departure, was this club goes back to the old traditional way of working. The clubs 121 history is based on not chasing the pot of gold which is probably why the club is still here. But on the other hand the club is also known for forward thinking, isn't it time for some of that?
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Post by Andy K on Oct 29, 2019 23:51:45 GMT
Good point. I did look back at the news stories and couldn't find the length written down, so I'm presuming 2 years (hence why disposing of his services now will be such a big blow to the budget). I have no idea what clauses might be in a Sutton manager's contract, but a Championship club manager's contract was revealed in court last year and it contained a dismissal clause based on league position in the relegation places before the end of the season. I can't imagine any football manager gets a contract with a guaranteed salary for two years, totally irrespective of performance. Whichever it is will be up for speculation and we're unlikely to ever know. But I doubt very much that there is any contract clause which would kick in now or even prior to the end of the season. So sacking now would still incur the costs for the full length of the contract
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Post by theelph on Oct 30, 2019 0:02:17 GMT
Money does not grow on trees banjo.To use one of your favourite expressions - get over it. No Billy it doesn't you have to go out and earn it, or you cut your cloth accordingly. I overwhelmingly believe the message from the club is saying the latter, I don't see any momentum from the top suggesting they want the club to stay and compete at this level. I am not going to open a can of worms saying if that is right or wrong, but the body language seems to suggest, and in fact the chairman's own words after Dos's departure, was this club goes back to the old traditional way of working. The clubs 121 history is based on not chasing the pot of gold which is probably why the club is still here. But on the other hand the club is also known for forward thinking, isn't it time for some of that? It all comes down to attitude and unfortunately it appears that the board has a "non-league mentality" and that lack of ambition will see us relegated to the Conference South and then maybe back to the Isthmian League. Seeing that MG signed several players from lower leagues didn't give me much confidence for the season ahead and no one seems to know what to do next.
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Post by scorpioeyes on Oct 30, 2019 0:09:48 GMT
quite correct,and so predictable. This has to be the most incompetent manager we have ever had. Looks like Bruce isn't bothered,though.What a 'joke' this club is becoming.
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Post by wolfie19 on Oct 30, 2019 0:36:57 GMT
If you think the board doesn’t care, you are very much mistaken, seen them tonight and they looked gutted, as do the players. No-one is just coasting along. Go back 10 months and we sneaked a win at The Shay, it’s fine margins. There’s no lack of effort, only thing there may be a lack of is money and can’t blame anyone for that. We’ve got 16 fit players, we can’t just rustle up a fresh new right back.
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markf
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Post by markf on Oct 30, 2019 0:42:55 GMT
Some of the ignorance displayed on this forum by the many not the few is quite astounding.
For those who read Steviem's post on Saturday and have failed to understand the facts as they were presented, their complete failure to do so is reason enough to consider most of what has been posted on here recently as absolute garbage.
A reality check is needed and to say that Bruce or any of the board for that matter are not bothered is moronic.
I accept that some of our newer fans may not understand the way the board work in order to protect the longevity of the club but some of our more long standing ones should.
As for having a non league mentality I don't know if the poster has noticed but guess what? SUFC is a non league club and has been since it was founded in 1898. Even Dos knew that going into the EFL may have caused the club more harm than good in the long run and I just don't understand that comment.
And before someone responds with "I am entitled to my opinion" blah blah well so am I and i am giving it.
Like many others i am disappointed as to how things are panning out but I'd rather see the club still going than chucking dosh it hasn't in the hope it can alleviate the current situation and thereby threaten it's long term future.
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