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Post by markn on Jan 11, 2011 23:55:47 GMT
Great result and a true game of two halves. I thought we were pretty poor first half with eratic passing, defence constantly under pressure and an over reliance on long ball which did not seem to be working.
Dos must have said a few things at half time as we came out for the second half a good couple of minutes later than Canvey and went for it from the off. Passing much better and we pressed and challenged every ball.
Hopefully, we can take the second half performance into the next few games, build from that and get a nice run going.
One last thing. Lemsip must be bloody good stuff. After Bradley's tweets about being laid down with a cold and relying on constant lemsips, he runs his socks off and scores another beauty 24 hours later. I may have to start drinking it myself.
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Post by Andy K on Jan 12, 2011 0:03:15 GMT
Not much to add really - first 20 mins were painful - especially the defence, but we held it together. We may have been fortunate to get two penalties, but they were two clear ones. I believe the longer the game went on, the stronger we'd become and most of the 2nd half was ours.
MoM - Well Fola had his best game in a Sutton shirt since before his injury earlier this season, but yet again Mr Dundas wins it for me. The man was immense today, creating chances where none existed.
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Post by frakey on Jan 12, 2011 9:33:29 GMT
After FQ had warmed te keeper's hands with a shot heading for the top corner in the 1st min, Canvey took the game to U's and scored an early goal. It took 20 mins for U's to settle but slowly they began to give the home defence, in particular, the pedestrian Chris Moore, some difficult moments. One of these led to the penalty after Dundo had surged past him. Most of the home fans thought Dundo had fallen over but the reaction of Moore was enough to convince me had impeded Dundo.
Great pen by Forbes. The second was the result of poor refereeing. He failed to see the 'keeper handle o/s the box and the ball run onto BWG who's shot was clearly handled by a defender, the ball deflecting into his face off the raised arm. The lino gave the pen not the ref. Red card? No, not this ref, who was clueless with his use of cards. And an even better finish from the spot by Forbesy.
The third goal was a brilliant finish by BWG. Much better tonight after a poor first 20 mins. In the second half I don't think Canvey created a presentable chance as once in front U's defended well and as a unit (unlike on Saturday). Dundo was immense again tonight.
I have never been a fan of Canvey's fans before and tonight they cemented that opinion. A la, K's they spent most of the night abusing us rather than getting behind their team. I'm used to it with K's and fine them boring but what have we done to upset Canvey? Still, I reckon I gave as good back. lol.
Top of the league, we can do what we like, top of the league..... they want to watch the game properly.
One other point - hats of to the Canvey grounsman. Pitch was superb - looked lke it had had no rain on it in weeks.
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Post by frakey on Jan 12, 2011 9:59:02 GMT
Reading on their forum, apparently the ref was unsure of what happened for the second pen, which a: probably answers why the fellow only got a yellow & b: suggests the ref, who was pretty close to the incident, needs a trip to the optician!
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Post by taz on Jan 12, 2011 10:09:37 GMT
Strange game. We looked well up for it first couple of mins with Quarm's shot and other pressure. Then they scored with their first attack and from there we had a pretty terrible first half. Aimless lumping of the ball, no shape, poor positioning. The turning point was Dos swapping Dundo & Bradley. Suddenly, Dundo was more in a position to cause their 2 CB's trouble and get at 'em.
From there, we improved a bit and at least gaev them something to think about. But despite this, we didn't really manage much up until Dundo muscled past Moore and was fouled for the pen, which Forbes ably despatched.
Second half, we were much better. Whilst I still wasn't impressed with our defending in general, we at least dug in and got the job done. Not pretty at times, but it worked.
Second goal, well, what was the ref doing exactly? Missed a clear handball by the 'keeper a good couple of yards outside the box as Forbsey tried to nod it over him and then when BWG goes to slot the loose ball in from the endge of the box, defender dives to block it with his hand.
Thankfully the lino was switched on & saw it, but to only give a yellow card? Surely the guy handling was no different to doing it on the line? The ball was only going one place and that was back of the net, so it has to be denying a goalscoring opportunity and a red card? Still, Forbes punished 'em with a corking pen into the top corner.
After that, whilst I felt we needed a third to finish the job and things being a little frantic at times, Canvey only really had one chance which Scrivs smothered. Brad's finish for the killer third was a peach. Half volley from 18 yards into the far corner.
As Frakey says their fans were like K's mob. Just with a few extra fingers. Spent most of their time chanting shite at the oppo support rather than positive stuff backing their team. All they were missing was some knob banging away on a drum and they'd have had the lot.
Still not quite firing on all cylinders, but if we can keep the points coming while this is the case, we'll stay in the hunt.
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Post by frakey on Jan 12, 2011 10:33:32 GMT
Rob on the Robins site states "1-1, another penalty". Er, that ws our first league penalty this season as far as I remember.
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Post by filbert on Jan 12, 2011 10:58:40 GMT
Rob on the Robins site states "1-1, another penalty". Er, that ws our first league penalty this season as far as I remember. I echo all those quotes above. When waiting for the tunnel to be moved at the end I heard the classic statement of the night. A CI young yob was calling the ref a c*** and anything else he could think of was spewing out of his Essex gob. A steward called him by name and told him to stop using the C word and the response was "No because it is my freedom of speech". What planet is he from?
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Post by taz on Jan 12, 2011 11:28:27 GMT
Rob on the Robins site states "1-1, another penalty". Er, that ws our first league penalty this season as far as I remember. One of those great Bobbins myths innit. We always get penalties (sometimes 2 or 3 at a time for single offences) every week and every game we win is by a last minute goal. Which is also no doubt a penalty. ;D Bit like the one about us being the big rich, money no object outfit and them being the perrenial plucky, grubby faced "got 20p for a cuppa guv?" backstreet underdogs.
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Post by oohaah on Jan 12, 2011 11:37:39 GMT
What planet is he from? That'll be Planet Can-V...
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Post by canveyfan on Jan 12, 2011 11:44:36 GMT
Rob on the Robins site states "1-1, another penalty". Er, that ws our first league penalty this season as far as I remember. I echo all those quotes above. When waiting for the tunnel to be moved at the end I heard the classic statement of the night. A CI young yob was calling the ref a c*** and anything else he could think of was spewing out of his Essex gob. A steward called him by name and told him to stop using the C word and the response was "No because it is my freedom of speech". What planet is he from? This 'yob' you are talking about was me - and for your information I never used the nasty 'c' word. In fact, I didn't even swear. We were all angry about the clear bias from the referee towards your team - something that your kit man agreed with us on. I was standing by the tunnel shouting at the referee and didn't swear at him once - I asked him for a refund and told him he was a clown who needs retraining, but that was about as far as I went. I was angry, yes, but I stuck by my principles. A steward told me to back off and leave, and not to use 'abusive' language. My argument was that I have the freedom of expression (with limitation) and didn't feel my actions were abusive and/or worthy of intervention. Before you start making accusations about me and my 'Essex gob' I suggest you find out all of the information first. Anyway, well done on the result, I can't say it was deserved, but you didn't turn off the pressure at 1 down and was rewarded by some dubious decisions!
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Post by frakey on Jan 12, 2011 12:17:00 GMT
Dubious deisions? Both our pens were nailed on mate. I can't say about your penalty appeals as being behind the other goal I was not in the best place to see.
As for not deserving the win, what chances did you actually create in the second half? Both our pens were down to your team's inability to prevent a Sutton player getting beyond their defence. Football is about scoring goals and not conceding. We scored 3 you got 1. A bit like our match on Saturday except in reverse and you won't have seen any of our fans complaining about that result.
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Post by canveyfan on Jan 12, 2011 12:32:15 GMT
Yes, they were penalties, but for the 1st the situation should never have happened. A blatant foul on our forward in your half was not given (the balls stayed where it was) and you got the penalty 10 seconds later. I don't think we had many strong penalty appeals, we certainly had 1 though.
We didn't create many in the second half, but that's because everytime our players went in for a tackle, the ref blew for a free kick the other way.
It puts your players down when they know they are up against 12 men - it's difficult to win when you're up against a good team and biased officials.
You'll never agree with me though, unlike some of your management team.
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Post by taz on Jan 12, 2011 12:42:30 GMT
TBH, I thought the ref was about average for a Ryman Prem game. Penalised both sides in open play for relatively minor stuff, whilst giving a couple the wrong way and should have sent off either your defender\keeper for handball 2nd half.
Whilst the ref wasn't brilliant, he definitely wasn't as bad as some we've seen this year. Certainly wasn't biased & didn't cost you a result anyway, your failure to build on a good start and indiscipline at the back did that.
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Post by frakey on Jan 12, 2011 13:01:25 GMT
Re our phsyio's comments. Ever heard of a "tongue-in-cheek comment" mate?
As for a foul before the first goal, I seriously can't remember but then, your fans and to some extent your players ,were appealing for anything when there was any contact for much of the evening. Some of it was laughable.
And if we did have 12 men, you should have been down to 10 after the second penalty incident. I reckon that decision rather balanced up everything else, assuming there was any balancing to do in the first place.
C U at GGL and good luck until then. Great pitch, btw.
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Post by filbert on Jan 12, 2011 13:25:19 GMT
I heard both you and the Steward quite clearly. Maybe we are both deaf or maybe it was the stupid looking bloke to your right?? Whatever you and your mates said to the officials was disgraceful. Canvey players deserved all they got and to say we dved, cheated and were lucky is harsh. Both pens were nailed on and your shout for one just before our first was just a coming together. I thought ref did ok apart from not booking a couple of CI players for kicking the ball away and then booked Forbes for the same offence.
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