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Post by guildrover on Aug 12, 2015 9:46:16 GMT
Really? So if one went back through the forum after nearly every defeat there wouldn't be a post from yourself with a video or a still of a decision or event that went against Sutton with the implication that we were hard done by or cheated against in some way?
As for it being a foul, if it was deemed a foul it would have been given. As it wasn't given it wasn't a foul in the eyes of the officials on the day and that is all that counts really after all is said and done.
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Post by timbo on Aug 12, 2015 12:55:09 GMT
Its certainly a foul without question, however the video was not shown for the purpose you suggest. It was not suggested to be the reason for the defeat, you made that conclusion yourself. If its definitely a foul why do you ask the question in the OP? FWIW I am comfortable with the ref's decision of no foul
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Post by os on Aug 12, 2015 18:16:46 GMT
Because I wanted to know the opinions of others before posting my view, which is that the player lead with his arm, and that is not allowed, so its a foul. The whistle goes, free kick no goal is scored, and a tight match remains 0-0.
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Post by markf on Aug 12, 2015 19:21:40 GMT
guildrover posted:
It is quite tiresome and sometimes darn embarrassing the 'evidence' produced after every defeat as to why we lost or how hard done by we were etc.
I love an exaggeration and the above surely is one.
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Post by Millsy on Aug 12, 2015 23:09:01 GMT
Because I wanted to know the opinions of others before posting my view, which is that the player lead with his arm, and that is not allowed, so its a foul. The whistle goes, free kick no goal is scored, and a tight match remains 0-0. Agree entirely. However you try and mask the intention or reason, it doesn't cast us in a good light and if you're going to scrutinise a decision, make a clip, make a slo-mo or whatever I'm sure you can find many that would go against us and arguably to do this you should analyse every single decision over a whole match regardless of the outcome being a goal scored or a ball lost in the park. Our reports from the likes of Tony Dolbear and so on are arguably the most neutral, fair and balanced you will ever see at this level or perhaps any level and I for one take a lot of pride in my club for that. I don't like to see things like this and don't think in this instance it serves any practical purpose, sorry, there's no major injustice. Just my opinion though, of course.
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Post by billy on Aug 12, 2015 23:50:44 GMT
It isn't a foul. If that was given against us we'd be moaning that the player was just out muscled in a 50/50. The Maidstone player was just stronger. No one reacts in such a way to suggest they feel it is a foul either from what I can see. Also how far back do you go before a goal to moan about a foul in the build up? As stated elsewhere, plenty of other chances after that to win the ball before the goal. It is quite tiresome and sometimes darn embarrassing the 'evidence' produced after every defeat as to why we lost or how hard done by we were etc. Spot on. It is very tiresome and often embarrassing the 'evidence' produced by os after every defeat as to why we lost or how hard done by we were.
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Post by timbo on Aug 13, 2015 6:32:38 GMT
Because I wanted to know the opinions of others before posting my view, which is that the player lead with his arm, and that is not allowed, so its a foul. The whistle goes, free kick no goal is scored, and a tight match remains 0-0. What do the laws say about "leading with the arm"?
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Post by billy on Aug 13, 2015 9:31:40 GMT
a post from May 2012
This comes under os rules.........................
1. Sutton should have had at least 1 penalty 2. The opposition goal/s should have been disallowed. 3. They should have had at least 1 sent off. 4. It was all the fault of the Referee.
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Post by Stewart on Aug 13, 2015 10:01:27 GMT
a post from May 2012 This comes under os rules......................... 1. Sutton should have had at least 1 penalty 2. The opposition goal/s should have been disallowed. 3. They should have had at least 1 sent off. 4. It was all the fault of the Referee. Don't be hard on OS. His other side Arsenal lost to West Ham on Sunday
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Post by os on Aug 13, 2015 11:10:04 GMT
a post from May 2012 This comes under os rules......................... 1. Sutton should have had at least 1 penalty 2. The opposition goal/s should have been disallowed. 3. They should have had at least 1 sent off. 4. It was all the fault of the Referee. So is it every time we lose or once every 3 years?
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Post by guildrover on Aug 13, 2015 11:25:41 GMT
guildrover posted: It is quite tiresome and sometimes darn embarrassing the 'evidence' produced after every defeat as to why we lost or how hard done by we were etc. I love an exaggeration and the above surely is one. In your opinion. Clearly not every agrees with you though, just like not everyone agrees with it being a 'definite' foul (including yourself) even after seeing the slow motion video footage.
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Post by markf on Aug 13, 2015 13:29:46 GMT
Be a boring world if we all agreed. Nothing wrong in raising stuff but maybe the presentation could be better and a little less full on
a ref I know did suggest that some ref's may have given it but was not clear cut. And always depends on their angle of vision.
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