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Post by andycapp on Aug 30, 2019 16:00:11 GMT
After one point over the BH weekend. What are we looking forward to
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Post by Del on Aug 30, 2019 18:18:40 GMT
Not sure. Without a home league win this season of course it would be nice to get off the mark. I don't feel that so far we have shown real creativity from open play so i'm hoping that will change. Barden & Bennett will hopefully be fit for this one.
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Post by os on Aug 30, 2019 22:21:02 GMT
Wings are put there to be used, if we can get down the flanks and deliver some quality into the box we can get of the mark at home. If we play like we did last week v Dover just lumping it into defenders who had total dominance we will get nowt against a steely magpies side who are no mugs.
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Post by Amber Aleman on Aug 31, 2019 6:53:20 GMT
I don't think our wing-play is a problem. Tom is an experienced and effective wide man, while David Ajiboye, after initially looking out of his depth at this level, is now showing that he can beat his man and deliver a dangerous cross. George Tuson-Firth has looked a decent back-up.
Maybe starting with two up front is what's needed (at home, at least). I think it's only against Chorley that we've done that so far.
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Post by baboonfish on Aug 31, 2019 11:25:58 GMT
When is the last time we actually beat or even didn't lose to a maids team at home? Must have to go back a fair while. Hopefully we can at least avoid the igmony of a 5th consecutive defeat to maidenhead since their promotion. They are our bogie of bogies!!
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Post by brisfitboy on Aug 31, 2019 11:49:31 GMT
I really have a feeling that today is going to be ours, I think that we will click today as I am away for 3 weeks so will miss the 2 big games at home and will need something great to keep me going whilst watching my Caley in Inverness and hopeful Forres Mechs 🏴
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Post by ganderpoke on Aug 31, 2019 16:18:18 GMT
For me the game was summed by their first two goals. We just don't look like we could produce anything similar at the moment. Not sure how we are going to improve the situation with our current personnel. As for all the JB long kicking, once again I find it tedious that we seem to be the only team in this league to think this a suitable tactic. It doesn't get us anywhere. I think we are going to be flirting withe drop zone by the end of September unless we improve.
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Post by baboonfish on Aug 31, 2019 16:30:07 GMT
The year is 2098, The Amazon is almost depleted, earth's population is 12 billion and the first Mars colony has been established... And Sutton have just managed a 0-0 draw against maidenhead to end a run of 137 consecutive defeats against the magpies.
Joking aside, I've not gone into a home game with less confidence of winning since arsenal in the cup. A solid first half performance gave some renewed optimism, but as the previous week we didn't turn up for the second. It was on utterly toothless display and from the 4 home games I've seen it's starting to look like Matt Gray is tactically out of his depth at this level. No plan B, if hoof it doesn't work we rarely look wiling to get it down and play it. The team looks like it has no belief that we can get back into it recently.
Clearly Jarvis was not going to win the duels against two big strong centre backs, we looked so damn predictable. Maidenhead just had to soak it up while they'd sussed us out and wait patiently for a chance on the break. Easy. If we continue to set up like this at home it's going to be a very long season and I'll be finding something less unpleasant to do on a Sat afternoon, like going to the dentists
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Post by brisfitboy on Aug 31, 2019 16:45:27 GMT
I really have a feeling that today is going to be ours, I think that we will click today as I am away for 3 weeks so will miss the 2 big games at home and will need something great to keep me going whilst watching my Caley in Inverness and hopeful Forres Mechs 🏴 Obviously I know sweet FA about football and live in cloud cuckoo land, sorry about that🙇♂️
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Post by halftimet on Aug 31, 2019 17:25:35 GMT
I thought we were promised two up front for home matches?. I thought again that Jarvis did well winning ball but he might as well be Robinson Crusoe stranded and completely on his own up front. We ask too much of the midfield who cannot get up the pitch quickly enough to support. We have regressed to the long diagonal from Collins and look similar to the end of last season but with different personnel. Substitutions do not seem to change the game. I could see no njection of urgency after we went behind. We did change formation but it had no impact. Pointlesss bringing on Kearney and Dundalk for 5 mnutess Very disappointing and unless ther is changes we will be fin a relegation scrap.
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Post by Stewart on Aug 31, 2019 17:35:32 GMT
You can’t use that word on this forum!
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Post by Andy K on Aug 31, 2019 18:25:24 GMT
When the fixtures came out I thought "yeah no longer should we expect a defeat to Maidenhead". I was wrong. Opening caveat here though is that they've made their best start to the season at this level and are not the usual bottom team that come and do a job on us.
Saying that today we made it easy. First half was almost all us and we dominated I thought the midfield. I'm not going to say however our shooting was poor because we didnt get a chance for much of that. Our delivery was poor in the first half but otherwise we were ok. Then the 2nd half came along.....
I'm not going to sit here and predict the usual cliches like "keep playing like this and we will be in a relegation battle". What I cant get my head around is Matt saying "at home I want us to play with 2 strikers week in week out" then constantly not do that. I don't want to hear Matt say we played "too much lumping aimless balls up front" when for the last 3 games that's most of what we've been doing and it was everything JC did today. I don't want to be told that the harmony in the squad is better than ever and then see Goodliffe and Butler nearly coming to blows on the pitch.
8 games in you can't judge where we are going to finish. But 8 games in you can start to tell if you are being played like a kipper. Keep up performances like today and last Saturday and good will could become in short supply very quickly.
The honeymoon is over.
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Post by pinewalker on Aug 31, 2019 18:36:24 GMT
For me the game was summed by their first two goals. We just don't look like we could produce anything similar at the moment. Not sure how we are going to improve the situation with our current personnel. As for all the JB long kicking, once again I find it tedious that we seem to be the only team in this league to think this a suitable tactic. It doesn't get us anywhere. I think we are going to be flirting withe drop zone by the end of September unless we improve. Absolutely right about the goals. I haven't seen a Sutton player hit a ball on our pitch like the first goal since Jonah, but Dover's first was similar. The best racehorses run well on any surface, from firm to heavy and the all-weather. Below the top level horses have a distinct preference for particular conditions, and I wonder if the same applies to footballers. Of the present squad the only player who has demonstrated he can shoot hard, low and accurately on a warm day on our 3G is Dylan, though possibly Tommy might be the same when fully match fit. Surely Dylan's time to start must come.
The second goal was another question mark about our current centre-back pairing. There may be an excuse for JC not being as sharp as usual but I am not sure Goodliffe is up to the standard required. He seems to lose attackers too easily. Cassidy was favoured by a quality delivery, aimed at a Sutton centreback but enabling Cassidy to get ahead of him to score with a sidefoot volley.
Jarvis worked his socks off as usual and did win more than half of the balls played up to him. Yet there was nobody on the move ready to pick up his flicks on or knock downs, and when he was looking for either winger they were 30 yards away and well to the rear of him. He is being short changed. The plan at home was to have two wingers in support but the set up is the same as our away formation. Wingers are present but not where they should be. When Tom did have the ball on the wing his delivery was inaccurate. David was better, getting to the goal line by running around the defence on occasions and his low centres created Sutton's two best chances.
Plan B?
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Post by os on Aug 31, 2019 18:46:30 GMT
I said if you don't get the ball down and use the flanks we would get nowt.
Today's performance was awful, even eclipsing that of last week. Yep tactically both Dover and Devonshire today had the games in their pockets, we made subs far too late in the match and when they did arrive had no impact on the game at all. There are no mugs in this league, and make no mistake if we continue to play like that we will get relegated.
The only redeeming factors today for me is that we should have had a stone wall penalty in the 1st half which may have changed things? Omar's sending off seemed harsh considering Head's challenges. I don't think that was a penalty at the end, not seen it on video yet but looked to me if the guy played for it and was going down before a challenged came in.
I also think the whole club needs to look at itself, the mojo definitely went south , crowds down which means revenue is down. The idea this club can simply go back to the old way of doing things Pre-Dos is just not going to work if we want to stay at this level.
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Post by ab on Aug 31, 2019 19:55:48 GMT
Please elaborate on your last paragraph os....?
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