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Post by SuttonUnitedFCtv on Oct 26, 2019 21:35:48 GMT
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Post by guildrover on Oct 26, 2019 22:31:02 GMT
As I alluded to in the matchday thread if the work rate and effort from the players is there (which it is) but we are still not winning/drawing then it would suggest as a collective we are just not quite good enough and something needs to change to address that.
We have heard before that we just need a win and that we will then kick on but the last two times we have done that (Boreham Wood and Chesterfield) we then went on to lose the next game which were both at home (Dover and Dagenham) why will it be different next time?
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Post by chocolamber on Oct 26, 2019 22:42:14 GMT
He sounds quite gormless, as if he hasn’t a clue what’s going on. Wherever did they find him? It’s time to send him back there, anyway.
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Post by timbo on Oct 26, 2019 23:48:10 GMT
A lot of talk about bad luck and a rallying call about dusting ourselves down again to work hard and carry on. Ok, maybe, but the team already works ard and I would like to hear, and see, something more specific about correcting the mistakes and making some positive changes
Hard work alone wont change the current situation, the work must be focussed in the right direction
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Post by Andy K on Oct 27, 2019 0:31:29 GMT
A lot of talk about bad luck and a rallying call about dusting ourselves down again to work hard and carry on. Ok, maybe, but the team already works ard and I would like to hear, and see, something more specific about correcting the mistakes and making some positive changes Hard work alone wont change the current situation, the work must be focussed in the right direction You have a very good point there. Yes luck played a part but luck had nothing to do with us giving away a freekick in a dangerous position or Butler being slow with his reactions for the first goal. It does feel we're vulnerable to set pieces and is it luck that we've conceded a goal with virtually the last kick of the game 3 matches running? No issue with the effort of the players but it does seem week in week out that we're making similar mistakes. If that's not the starting point to improve, then I don't know what is.
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Post by skillspaybills on Oct 27, 2019 1:21:22 GMT
Funnily enough on FA coaching courses you can get failed during practical assessments for using phrases such as "unlucky" if a player misses.
As above bad luck isn't making bad decisions. Before we can go forward these unforced errors need to be eradicated then the points will come..
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Post by ggl on Oct 27, 2019 5:13:06 GMT
I think the one thing that we can all agree on is that we all love our football club and are very passionate about it doing well . The last time we got relegated from this league it literally ruined my summer , bloody daft I know but true . I think we also all agree that something has to change . Many , myself included , have said that this begins with the manager . Some have said our luck and others our tactics . Whatever it is I hope that this happens soon . For the record , I have nothing personally against MG , he seems to be a really good bloke and I sincerely hopes he makes a success of his time guiding our club . A contradiction I know because I have been calling for his head . One further point I would like to make is perhaps with the success of Sir Dos we have got carried away and have become to expect the success of teams like Salford , only without their budget ! Cup runs and flirting with promotion has been very exciting and had almost become the norm . Per haps with the growing number of ex football league teams competing against us we all need to adjust to the fact that we are now a quite small fish in a large pond surrounded by much larger fish and that just finishing fifth from bottom will be a great success . I for one would happily accept that come the end of the season and would crack open some fizzy stuff.
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Post by ganderpoke on Oct 27, 2019 9:10:25 GMT
I agree - I think its time we accepted that with our limited resources and the number of ex league clubs in this division that without Dos (and his deep pockets!)we are a NLS club who, with a bit of luck, will have a few seasons here and there in the NL. A fifth from bottom place finish would be OK but right now I'm not sure who would finish below us, apart from Chorley.
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Post by Del on Oct 27, 2019 10:11:30 GMT
Well i would go for Ebbsfleet/Chorley/Wrexham & Aldershot but of course only 3 may get relegated because of Bury's demise.
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Post by billy on Oct 27, 2019 11:05:32 GMT
Money from outside the club.Great idea.I hear that just outside in the park,in amongst the horse chestnut trees there is also a 50 pound note tree.
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Post by mca on Oct 27, 2019 11:27:59 GMT
I agree - I think its time we accepted that with our limited resources and the number of ex league clubs in this division that without Dos (and his deep pockets!)we are a NLS club who, with a bit of luck, will have a few seasons here and there in the NL. A fifth from bottom place finish would be OK but right now I'm not sure who would finish below us, apart from Chorley. Why should we accept relegation, as I said in another post it up to the board to fined the money. If that means bringing in the money from out side the club then they should do that. I have never understood why the board are so reluctant to do that, as it was said at the Dos meet meet the manager if we want to really compete we must get more money in, I agree with that. So we go down then, people will say no ambition and then we get the low gates ones a gain. so com on board please sort it out, I say that as a long standing s.u.fc fan. where do you suggest the money comes from? Amber500 has shown the fans are mostly out of cash to donate. Nobody wants to just accept relegation, but being inthis league is a pricy business and maybe we are a level above our natural fit. I personally don't think the manager is up to it, but also am not convinced anyone else could do enough to keep us up. If we're doing predictions, I think us, Chorley and Ebbsfleet are doomed
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Post by Del on Oct 27, 2019 13:01:46 GMT
where do you suggest the money comes from? Amber500 has shown the fans are mostly out of cash to donate. Nobody wants to just accept relegation, but being inthis league is a pricy business and maybe we are a level above our natural fit. I personally don't think the manager is up to it, but also am not convinced anyone else could do enough to keep us up. If we're doing predictions, I think us, Chorley and Ebbsfleet are doomed As I said more than ones, that is the boards job. I have spoken to meany fans that think similar to me so we are at a cross roads ever the board want us to play at this level or not so as I said in my previous post please sort it out.. Wow if it was only that simple. I guess there aren't many Paul Doswells about willing to subsidise a non league team who don't own their own freehold. Perhaps also the board are not panicking 17 games in to a 46 game league programme like others. We need 9 points from the next 6 games to be on target for 50 points at the end of the season. But for a crossbar and a last minute penalty it would be 6 from 6. Lets just see where we are after 23 games.
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Post by mca on Oct 27, 2019 14:37:18 GMT
But for a crossbar and a last minute penalty it would be 6 from 6. Lets just see where we are after 23 games. if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle
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Post by steviem on Oct 27, 2019 15:04:38 GMT
For years we have congratulated our board on their financial prudence and mocked clubs like Ebbsfleet that have sold out to sugar daddies and then struggled when the money has run out. Now people are saying we should do the same.
But, in reality, that may be the only way we can stay in this league. People who say there is a crisis on the pitch are looking the wrong way. To give you some idea of what we are competing against, there were experienced managers who applied in the summer that wanted a playing budget of £60k a week. That would mean that, including pre-season our current budget would be spent by mid-September.
However, it's worse than that. Anyone who has seen the accounts for last year will know that the club lost £250k last season. Some of that was a one-off payment to refurbish the MBA lounge and sales of shares covered most of the rest. But we can't keep raising money that way and, as the playing budget is only slightly less than last year, my reckoning is that the club is on track to lose £150k this season. Therefore, there are 3 options as I see it: find £150k through our own efforts, which is why the Amber 500 is so important; find someone who is willing to put at least £150k into the club (more if we want to be competitive) this season, next season, and guarantee that for every season going forward (for which they will presumably want a significant say in the running of the club); or reduce the playing budget (and that may not be too far away).
Ultimately it comes down to what people want for this Football Club and what efforts they are prepared to put in to help it. My opinion is that any funding needs to be sustainable long-term and a sugar daddy is only a short-term fix. The club, like all businesses, needs to balance the books and, if we can't generate extra income through our own efforts, then the grim reality is that cuts will have to be made.
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Post by ggl on Oct 27, 2019 15:51:00 GMT
Steviem’s post makes quite sobering reading . No easy fix in sight by the looks of it.
As for mca’s aunt , I think I once met her at a party !!
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