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Post by os on May 21, 2020 17:43:57 GMT
This could be a great opportunity to get 3G pitches accepted into the Football league because i don't see them changing the rules unless forced to. Also travel costs take a large chunk of the budget hence the reason the club needed to run the Amber 500 draw. It would also solve the promotion and relegation issues of the National NLS & NLN this season together with the EFL 2. You could have two clubs promoted to League 1 from each of the EFL2 North & south divisions with feeders from National League North & south. Actually that is a really good point, it would mean 3/4g accepted by default, but who would run the new league the National league or the EFL? I did laugh when I thought of that money Salford City spent effectively going nowhere if this came off.
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Post by Del on May 21, 2020 18:11:54 GMT
I don't think we are talking about a new league as such. This would be an additional division in the Football League structure as far as i can make out.
It would mean that the Football League revert back to 4 divisions,the same as before the Premier League break away.
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Post by os on May 21, 2020 18:26:54 GMT
I don't think we are talking about a new league as such. This would be an additional division in the Football League structure as far as i can make out. It would mean that the Football League revert back to 4 divisions,the same as before the Premier League break away. I think that is the same thing, I can't see the National league accepting losing their jewel in the crown, it would leave just 2 national league divisions.
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Post by Del on May 21, 2020 18:30:57 GMT
I don't think we are talking about a new league as such. This would be an additional division in the Football League structure as far as i can make out. It would mean that the Football League revert back to 4 divisions,the same as before the Premier League break away. I think that is the same thing, I can't see the National league accepting losing their jewel in the crown, it would leave just 2 national league divisions. To be honest i can't see them having any option if the top teams decide.
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Post by Amber Aleman on May 21, 2020 18:52:07 GMT
I'm doubtful that the mooted merger between League 2 and the NL will get anywhere. The basis of the original story in the Daily Mail looked flimsy. A few EFL club chairmen may have pushed the idea but others will see it as a dilution of status.
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Post by Andy K on May 22, 2020 9:56:16 GMT
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Post by boomboom on May 22, 2020 10:53:47 GMT
Splitting a fixed national pool of clubs into equally-sized regional divisions is often problematic. Gloucester City have had to endure several seasons in National League League North, Oxford City have been shuffled between North and South, while Bishops Stortford also had a spell in the North. It's therefore no surprise that there's a similar problem in sorting the 24 clubs currently in the National League. It's quite easy to find eleven clubs for a northern division: Barrow, Hartlepool, Harrogate, Halifax, Fylde, Chorley, Stockport, Wrexham, Chesterfield, Notts County and Solihull. But who would be the twelfth? Maidenhead? Boreham Wood? Neither of those would want to be split off from the other twelve southern clubs. You could operate with a 13-11 split but that would be unsatisfactory. The southern clubs would then have more games and therefore more matchday income. There'd also be, on average, less travelling in the south because, with the exception of Torquay and Yeovil, all the clubs would be in Greater London, the Home Counties or Hampshire. I can see that there is an economic argument for regionalisation, but I hope the existing set-up can be preserved. I think that may not be as much of an issue as the article implies that L2 and the National League will merge into these 2 division. It looks like L2 has a nice split between north and south, with Walsall being the most southern side in a northern section and Northampton being the most northern in the southern. In that scenario, Northampton could move to the North (with its easy access to the M1) which means that it could well be feasible to have a N/S league. In summary L2 N (in no particular order) Carlise, Morecambe Bradford, Oldham, Salford, Scunthorpe, Grimsby, Macclesfield, Crewe, Port Vale, Mansfield, Walsall, Northampton, Barrow, Hartlepool, Harrogate, Halifax, Fylde, Chorley, Stockport, Wrexham, Chesterfield, Notts County and Solihull L2 S Cambridge, Cheltenham, Stevenage, Colchester, Newport County, Forest Green, Swindon, Leyton Orient, Crawley, Exeter, Plymouth, Torquay, Yeovil, Eastleigh, Aldershot, Maidenhead, Woking, BW, Ebbsfleet, Dover, Barnet, Bromley, Dagenham and Us. Funny how as far as I know in a projected L2 S, there's only 2 teams I think we've never played competitively! Of course it could get more complex if there are any projected promotions/relegations from L1 and the VNL s/N Here's the mileage using AA Route Planner (obviously other travel options are available) from GGL for each of those: L2 S Plymouth 213 Torquay 190 Exeter 170 Newport 142 Yeovil 129 Cheltenham 119 Forest Green 115 Cambridge 98 Colchester 88 Swindon 84 Dover 81 Eastleigh 75 Stevenage 66 BW 58 Leyton Orient 53 Dagenham 48 Ebbsfleet 41 Maidenhead 40 Aldershot 32 Crawley 27 Barnet 23 Woking 20 Bromley 13 TOTAL 1,925 AVERAGE 84 National League Barrow 310 Hartlepool 287 Fylde 255 Harrogate 236 Halifax 236 Chorley 236 Stockport 221 Wrexham 215 Torquay 190 Chesterfield 176 Notts County 176 Yeovil 129 Solihull 124 Dover 81 Eastleigh 75 BW 58 Dagenham 48 Ebbsfleet 41 Maidenhead 40 Aldershot 32 Barnet 23 Woking 20 Bromley 13 TOTAL 3,222 AVERAGE 140 For comparison, I did the same exercise for a Midlands club, Solihull. Their mileage is 2,627 for L2 N and 3,002 for NL so not a significant difference. Clearly reductions in travel times and costs from regionalisation will be much greater for some clubs than others.
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Post by davep on May 22, 2020 13:45:06 GMT
If the National League follows the EFL's favoured approach to Division 2, Chorley, Fylde and Ebbsfleet will be relegated - with Maidenhead escaping by virtue of a marginally better points per game record than Ebbsfleet and Bury's financial failures meaning that only 3 teams would be relegated.
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Post by Andy K on May 22, 2020 13:54:44 GMT
If the National League follows the EFL's favoured approach to Division 2, Chorley, Fylde and Ebbsfleet will be relegated - with Maidenhead escaping by virtue of a marginally better points per game record than Ebbsfleet and Bury's financial failures meaning that only 3 teams would be relegated. I did read somewhere that the National League have applied to the FA to extend the season so that the play offs could still happen. If that were the case, it could well be following Div 2 approach.
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