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Post by pinewalker on Sept 28, 2020 22:16:54 GMT
I would like to correct the impression that grass roots football is withering. When the Sunday League of which I'm chairman had to void last season, with nobody winning the divisions, I did wonder how much interest that would kill. We ran 5 divisions last season. To my surprise we got a net 11 new teams and expanded to 6 divisions. In fact we had to tell another 11 applicants we were full - a decision based on the availability of pitches all for 10.30 ko and referees.
After 3 weeks of playing without changing rooms but at least in good weather our biggest problem has been enforcing the 'no spectators' rule the FA has given us. Hundreds have turned up to watch in the public parks and we can do nothing about that. At the moment we qualify for exemption from the 6 persons rule as an organized sport with anti-covid measures in place. It is a knife edge -a local lock-down is sure to include us.
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Post by trev on Sept 28, 2020 22:30:56 GMT
There's no shortage of passion and enthusiasm for the beautiful game, only revenue streams. As long as humans and spheroids continue to inhabit the earth, we'll always have football in some form or another, hopefully with more consistent handball rules. Glad to hear your Sunday League system is flourishing in spite of the ongoing situation.
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Post by Stewart on Oct 18, 2020 10:57:42 GMT
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Post by markf on Oct 18, 2020 12:55:59 GMT
I would like to correct the impression that grass roots football is withering. When the Sunday League of which I'm chairman had to void last season, with nobody winning the divisions, I did wonder how much interest that would kill. We ran 5 divisions last season. To my surprise we got a net 11 new teams and expanded to 6 divisions. In fact we had to tell another 11 applicants we were full - a decision based on the availability of pitches all for 10.30 ko and referees. After 3 weeks of playing without changing rooms but at least in good weather our biggest problem has been enforcing the 'no spectators' rule the FA has given us. Hundreds have turned up to watch in the public parks and we can do nothing about that. At the moment we qualify for exemption from the 6 persons rule as an organized sport with anti-covid measures in place. It is a knife edge -a local lock-down is sure to include us. That maybe the case and good for your league but the Morden & District had around 10 divisions (c80 teams) not that long ago and is now defunct. Similarly the Redhill & District had a healthy number of teams both Saturday and Sunday but, I believe has gone the way of the M&DSL too. The Leatherhead appears still to be going ok and probably picked up from the others while the Chessington I believe is still functioning. Even so 11 v 11 men's football has shrunk considerably over the last decade but let's hope you're seeing the start of a long term growth.
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Post by Del on Oct 18, 2020 20:48:48 GMT
I would like to correct the impression that grass roots football is withering. When the Sunday League of which I'm chairman had to void last season, with nobody winning the divisions, I did wonder how much interest that would kill. We ran 5 divisions last season. To my surprise we got a net 11 new teams and expanded to 6 divisions. In fact we had to tell another 11 applicants we were full - a decision based on the availability of pitches all for 10.30 ko and referees. After 3 weeks of playing without changing rooms but at least in good weather our biggest problem has been enforcing the 'no spectators' rule the FA has given us. Hundreds have turned up to watch in the public parks and we can do nothing about that. At the moment we qualify for exemption from the 6 persons rule as an organized sport with anti-covid measures in place. It is a knife edge -a local lock-down is sure to include us. That maybe the case and good for your league but the Morden & District had around 10 divisions (c80 teams) not that long ago and is now defunct. Similarly the Redhill & District had a healthy number of teams both Saturday and Sunday but, I believe has gone the way of the M&DSL too. The Leatherhead appears still to be going ok and probably picked up from the others while the Chessington I believe is still functioning. Even so 11 v 11 men's football has shrunk considerably over the last decade but let's hope you're seeing the start of a long term growth. I think the Redhill & district Sunday League still runs.
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Post by markf on Oct 18, 2020 20:54:51 GMT
Indeed it does. 36 teams including a couple from SCR. Good to know.
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Post by Stewart on Oct 21, 2020 10:30:17 GMT
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Post by garethl on Oct 21, 2020 12:26:34 GMT
I think that’s a pretty exceptional package. Maybe peanuts in the grand scheme given the cash being dished out across the UK but it’s a good result for the viability of the NL season and for helping the member clubs through.
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Post by Del on Oct 21, 2020 12:44:39 GMT
I would agree that on the face of it £84,000 a month plus our streaming income should help us through !
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Post by Andy K on Oct 21, 2020 16:28:47 GMT
Not quite correct (and I know you're just repeating the headline Stewart, so them not you!). Barnet and Dagenham (both ex-league clubs) have not - it is literally the top 7 clubs from last season with the highest average home attendances, all of which were over 2,500. Halifax were next on the list but there was a significant drop from Torquay (the side above them) and Halifax were the first side on the list to have lower than the average for the league last season. Not only do I think this is actually a good package for the league, it's been done in a pretty transparent way. It's easy to see why those 7 sides have got a little higher. Of course as with everything there will be winners and losers. Boreham Wood for example have had a lottery win in comparison to their crowds!
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Post by os on Oct 21, 2020 18:27:22 GMT
Not only do I think this is actually a good package for the league, it's been done in a pretty transparent way. It's easy to see why those 7 sides have got a little higher. Of course as with everything there will be winners and losers. Boreham Wood for example have had a lottery win in comparison to their crowds! I don't think it would have changed our package too much if the league had disturbed the funds according to average league crowds. Oliver Ash has been all over the radio here in Kent going bonkers, he get himself charged by the league for his comments, however he is absolutely right. It is totally wrong for a club like BW to get £84k per month when they don't rely on fans and already have secure financial backing, clubs should get what they have lost.
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Post by trev on Oct 22, 2020 9:05:52 GMT
I don't disagree with you os, although I accept that the new rescue package is arguably the best we could have hoped for under the circumstances. The government simply doesn't have the time and/or resources to deliver a bespoke package individually tailored for each club. The government faces similar challenges in other sectors, where the priority is preventing businesses and other organisations from going under. Where a quick fix is required, a one size fits all policy is usually the way forward...
Of course, if there were a fairer distribution of wealth in the beautiful game (e.g. a modest share of the multi-billion pound broadcasting revenues) then there would have been no need for an emergency bailout of lower league clubs at taxpayers' expense in the first place, but that's another story...
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Post by Stewart on Oct 31, 2020 10:28:56 GMT
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Post by Stewart on Dec 5, 2020 12:06:45 GMT
I notice Bromley are charging £25 for seats and £20 for terrace tickets for today’s game!
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Post by oohaah on Dec 5, 2020 12:43:28 GMT
Well I guess technically someone rich enough could have paid £999 for one of our terrace tickets?
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