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Post by localboy86 on Jul 21, 2020 20:20:17 GMT
Soon to be announced I’d imagine? Seen lots of clubs (lower down the pyramid I hasten to add) announce friendlies throughout August ahead of their September league start dates.
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Post by Andy K on Jul 22, 2020 20:34:10 GMT
Soon to be announced I’d imagine? Seen lots of clubs (lower down the pyramid I hasten to add) announce friendlies throughout August ahead of their September league start dates. I expect not yet. Our league's season doesn't finish until next weekend.
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Post by localboy86 on Jul 31, 2020 14:03:11 GMT
Dorking Wanderers away on Saturday 26th September (week before seasons due to start)
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Post by trev on Jul 31, 2020 14:06:56 GMT
Dorking Wanderers away on Saturday 26th September (week before seasons due to start) I see the latest boardroom update (number 17) says "we are expecting that all pre-season games will be behind closed doors", so I'm assuming this applies to away games as well.
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Post by os on Jul 31, 2020 21:09:18 GMT
I am not convinced that a new season with the rumoured 30% capacity rule is viable? Clubs with bigger grounds such as Chesterfield will be at a huge advantage as it would not effect their attendances.
The impact of lost revenue for those with smaller grounds could spell relegation or even worse. I want to see football but not at the detriment of our club.
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Post by Jared on Jul 31, 2020 21:52:16 GMT
I am not convinced that a new season with the rumoured 30% capacity rule is viable? Clubs with bigger grounds such as Chesterfield will be at a huge advantage as it would not effect their attendances. The impact of lost revenue for those with smaller grounds could spell relegation or even worse. I want to see football but not at the detriment of our club. Looking at the average attendances via www.footballwebpages.co.uk/national-league/attendances only Boreham Wood wouldn’t be negatively impacted by a 30% capacity. As with everything these are baby steps to help get everything ready for full capacity.
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Post by os on Jul 31, 2020 22:25:08 GMT
I am not convinced that a new season with the rumoured 30% capacity rule is viable? Clubs with bigger grounds such as Chesterfield will be at a huge advantage as it would not effect their attendances. The impact of lost revenue for those with smaller grounds could spell relegation or even worse. I want to see football but not at the detriment of our club. Looking at the average attendances via www.footballwebpages.co.uk/national-league/attendances only Boreham Wood wouldn’t be negatively impacted by a 30% capacity. As with everything these are baby steps to help get everything ready for full capacity. I agree, but I want to see all away supporters barred, and the league to allow live streaming of matches on pay per view basis, with the clubs getting the revenue and not the NL. I am not saying it would replace all lost revenue but for matches against big clubs it would at least bring in a little extra. Its important that the clubs don't roll over like pussycats to the Leagues demands, is all I am actually saying.
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Post by kpinwp on Aug 1, 2020 14:42:05 GMT
I agree, but I want to see all away supporters barred, and the league to allow live streaming of matches on pay per view basis, with the clubs getting the revenue and not the NL. I am not saying it would replace all lost revenue but for matches against big clubs it would at least bring in a little extra. Its important that the clubs don't roll over like pussycats to the Leagues demands, is all I am actually saying. On what (current) grounds would you do that? The barring of all away supporters, I mean. Local lockdowns aside, we are (again, currently) allowed to move around the country as we wish. And there is at least an attempt to restimulate the economy, which travelling fans would do. More so than home fans, in fact. Surely the issue is ground capacity as regards social distancing, not where the fans come from? A football fan is a footbal fan.
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Post by os on Aug 1, 2020 22:25:59 GMT
I agree, but I want to see all away supporters barred, and the league to allow live streaming of matches on pay per view basis, with the clubs getting the revenue and not the NL. I am not saying it would replace all lost revenue but for matches against big clubs it would at least bring in a little extra. Its important that the clubs don't roll over like pussycats to the Leagues demands, is all I am actually saying. On what (current) grounds would you do that? The barring of all away supporters, I mean. Local lockdowns aside, we are (again, currently) allowed to move around the country as we wish. And there is at least an attempt to restimulate the economy, which travelling fans would do. More so than home fans, in fact. Surely the issue is ground capacity as regards social distancing, not where the fans come from? A football fan is a footbal fan. I am not really sure my was understood, I have not suddenly become prejudice against other teams supporters. If we have a return to football with any sort of football with crowds which I think is unlikely before next year. Where are you going to put all these away fans with just a 1500 capacity? I think the logistics of getting a home crowd into a ground and carrying out social distancing, making sure you leave space for season ticket holders every match is a problem which is already complex, adding away supporters to the mix is even more so. Are you going to make all matches all ticket? Are you going to turn home or even away fans away at the gate? The whole situation has a lot to play out. I would be interested to know how any of you would actually do and manage a return to football with crowds at this time?
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Post by tonyd on Aug 2, 2020 15:23:55 GMT
Season tickets only in the home areas, all-ticket in the away end. Visiting club decides how to distribute its allocation.
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Post by os on Aug 2, 2020 22:43:53 GMT
Season tickets only in the home areas, all-ticket in the away end. Visiting club decides how to distribute its allocation. Well yes, so are you only letting in season ticket holders and those with tickets? Do you have pay at the gate?
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Post by kpinwp on Aug 2, 2020 23:47:48 GMT
On what (current) grounds would you do that? The barring of all away supporters, I mean. Local lockdowns aside, we are (again, currently) allowed to move around the country as we wish. And there is at least an attempt to restimulate the economy, which travelling fans would do. More so than home fans, in fact. Surely the issue is ground capacity as regards social distancing, not where the fans come from? A football fan is a footbal fan. I am not really sure my was understood, I have not suddenly become prejudice against other teams supporters. If we have a return to football with any sort of football with crowds which I think is unlikely before next year. Where are you going to put all these away fans with just a 1500 capacity? I think the logistics of getting a home crowd into a ground and carrying out social distancing, making sure you leave space for season ticket holders every match is a problem which is already complex, adding away supporters to the mix is even more so. Are you going to make all matches all ticket? Are you going to turn home or even away fans away at the gate? The whole situation has a lot to play out. I would be interested to know how any of you would actually do and manage a return to football with crowds at this time? I do see your points but look at this the other way around. How long do you think the teams in the Conference structure can survive for, playing behind closed doors? You are suggesting no crowds this year. But what makes early next year (in terms of the C-Virus situation) seem more condusive to letting managed crowd levels back into grounds than in October? And if that isn't condusive either does that leave us with a season at all? Is an entire no-crowd-season viable? I have no idea if we as a club could financially weather such a situation. But I'm pretty sure that a fair number of the other clubs in the Conference structure won't. Which may lead to those leagues simply unravelling. I do know that the Govt has said 'no' to any kind of financial bail out for football, on the basis that there is already a lot of money in it, so it can't be justified. They have a point. If we want our level of football to survive then I think we just have to make this work. Rather than think about how it 'can't'.
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Post by tonyd on Aug 3, 2020 0:32:20 GMT
Season tickets only in the home areas, all-ticket in the away end. Visiting club decides how to distribute its allocation. Well yes, so are you only letting in season ticket holders and those with tickets? Do you have pay at the gate? No pay at the gate. Season tickets for home supporters (max 750 as the club has said) and tickets for away supporters sent to their club for sale to their supporters. Assuming one-fifth of “capacity” that would be max 150 for visiting clubs and a total max gate of 900 spread around the ground.
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Post by tonyd on Aug 3, 2020 0:43:35 GMT
The Govt view of football is the Premier league, so that’s no help. The FA has bundled together steps 1-6 which is ridiculous. SCR to play E&E in a PSF behind closed doors. How many people would go to that? 30? 40? The entire UK speedway season has been cancelled for this year and if we are not careful non-league football will go the same way. I can’t see COVID-19 going away for a few years, so we we have to learn to live with it and leave it up to players and spectators to decide if they want to take the risk.
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Post by os on Aug 3, 2020 18:22:57 GMT
Well yes, so are you only letting in season ticket holders and those with tickets? Do you have pay at the gate? No pay at the gate. Season tickets for home supporters (max 750 as the club has said) and tickets for away supporters sent to their club for sale to their supporters. Assuming one-fifth of “capacity” that would be max 150 for visiting clubs and a total max gate of 900 spread around the ground. Yes but many clubs would simply fold under that scenario, Dover have put all players up for transfer and are saying they could go under at he end of the month. I am not happy with a slow death just to get back to football, I want to see all clubs at our level say to the NL, Prem League and the Gov that this is not good enough.
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