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Post by sallycat on Oct 16, 2020 13:22:57 GMT
Thought I'd post about this public consultation on here as two of the affected routes, 413 and 80, serve our ground. consultations.tfl.gov.uk/buses/sutton-croydon-bus-changes/Essentially, the proposed changes would mean instead of going to Sutton Garage, the 413 would pick up what's currently the S3 route from Sutton town centre, going via Carshalton station to Belmont. The 80 is mostly unaffected but would terminate at Sutton Hospital rather than going all the way to the prisons at Belmont.
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Post by silverf0x on Oct 18, 2020 10:02:55 GMT
Changes to the 413 would be brilliant for me, door-to-door service!
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Post by sallycat on Oct 18, 2020 10:24:47 GMT
Good for me too: not exactly door to door but only a few minutes' walk. At the moment if for whatever reason I can't cycle (10 mins) it's either a 30 minute walk, 2 buses or a 15 minute walk plus a bus.
Less selfishly, I think it would be great to provide a service linking east and west Sutton, since there currently isn't one. The X26 is the only route that passes through both, but it doesn't stop at either end.
Incidentally, the 413 used to serve Carshalton in the very early 90s.
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Post by tenorclef on Oct 22, 2020 19:30:26 GMT
IIncidentally, the 413 used to serve Carshalton in the very early 90s. The 80 used to go all the way up the Murder Mile to Banstead too. I seem to remember there was a 280 as well. And the trusty 164.
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Post by Stewart on Oct 22, 2020 19:40:54 GMT
I remember taking the 80 to The Mint, Lower Kingswood. Colley Hill was just a 20 minute walk away.
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Post by dontpanic on Oct 22, 2020 19:54:07 GMT
Was always a bit of a rush for me to catch the last 80A bus back to Walton on the Hill after Sutton night games years ago.
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Post by sallycat on Oct 22, 2020 20:45:50 GMT
IIncidentally, the 413 used to serve Carshalton in the very early 90s. The 80 used to go all the way up the Murder Mile to Banstead too. I seem to remember there was a 280 as well. And the trusty 164. Oh yeah, they all went a lot further south then. The 280 went to Wandsworth in the other direction while the 80 only went as far as Morden. I think all the routes through Sutton have changed significantly over the years except for the 154 which has only had very minor alterations. Don't start me off properly on local bus route history though. You'll regret it
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Post by VCLXI on Oct 22, 2020 20:52:58 GMT
Hasn't the 151 stayed as it was? Always remember jumping on that with my mum and three siblings when I was a kid to the weekly family shop.
How the hell my mum managed it I will never know!
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Post by sallycat on Oct 22, 2020 21:33:53 GMT
Believe it or not, it used to go up Carshalton Road to Carshalton Beeches and Belmont (probably very similar to what the S3 does now and the proposed new 413 route). Sometime in the early 70s (I think) it was withdrawn completely and the 151 route then served the Lewisham area for a while before returning to Sutton. When I was younger I remember the 151 regularly terminating at Cheam for a while.
As for your mum - same here! So many shopping bags and children, and the buses weren't so much built for it then.
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Post by VCLXI on Oct 22, 2020 21:43:46 GMT
I can't remember where it terminated, I just remember having to cross over Green Wrythe Lane from Buckhurst Avenue to get that if we were going to Sutton, or stay on the same side if we were getting the 157 to go to Wallington.
Which, and I'm sure that you can correct me if I'm wrong, terminated at Crystal Palace.
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Post by Jared on Oct 23, 2020 8:16:48 GMT
I can't remember where it terminated, I just remember having to cross over Green Wrythe Lane from Buckhurst Avenue to get that if we were going to Sutton, or stay on the same side if we were getting the 157 to go to Wallington. Which, and I'm sure that you can correct me if I'm wrong, terminated at Crystal Palace. I did the same when I lived on Bramblewood Close, just off Buckhurst Avenue in the early to mid 90s. The 151 on the other side of Green Wrythe Lane would would take us to Sutton for shopping, we would normally catch the 157 from that side to go to Morden as well IIRC. (Or it could have been the 80)
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Post by sallycat on Oct 23, 2020 8:43:57 GMT
I can't remember where it terminated, I just remember having to cross over Green Wrythe Lane from Buckhurst Avenue to get that if we were going to Sutton, or stay on the same side if we were getting the 157 to go to Wallington. Which, and I'm sure that you can correct me if I'm wrong, terminated at Crystal Palace. Correct. Still does. That one hasn't changed much either. Our shopping trips were quite an adventure. My mum doesn't drive and my dad was a bus driver working out of Merton garage, so we'd get the 154 or 164 from Sutton to Morden, catch the tube to Colliers Wood and do the shop at the big Sainsbury's (which I just about remember being built) timed to coincide with the end of my dad's shift. Then we'd have a drink in the cafe and all go home in the car my dad had parked at his work just across the road. It sounds unnecessarily complicated but it worked better for my mum than trying to carry all the shopping for a family of 5 while wrangling three small children one of whom had a learning disability and some behavioural issues that would have been very hard to cope with with one's hands full. She also got free bus and tube travel because of my dad's job (as did my brother because he's registered disabled). I seem to remember spending a lot of time waiting for buses.
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Post by jr on Oct 23, 2020 9:39:14 GMT
The 154 used to go down Boundary Road and onto Ruskin Road until they re-routed it around Carshalton Beeches (presumably to replace the 213 from Wallington to Worcester Park)
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Post by sallycat on Oct 23, 2020 9:43:05 GMT
Yes I think that's pretty much the only change it's had!
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Post by VCLXI on Oct 23, 2020 12:21:21 GMT
I can't remember where it terminated, I just remember having to cross over Green Wrythe Lane from Buckhurst Avenue to get that if we were going to Sutton, or stay on the same side if we were getting the 157 to go to Wallington. Which, and I'm sure that you can correct me if I'm wrong, terminated at Crystal Palace. I did the same when I lived on Bramblewood Close, just off Buckhurst Avenue in the early to mid 90s. The 151 on the other side of Green Wrythe Lane would would take us to Sutton for shopping, we would normally catch the 157 from that side to go to Morden as well IIRC. (Or it could have been the 80) Ah Bramblewood Close. I lived at number 157 ironically. Many a day whizzing down those back alleys to the river Wandle and playing football on the small patch of green at the top of the horseshoe shaped road were spent. Happy days.
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