kpinwp
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Post by kpinwp on Dec 24, 2020 12:57:12 GMT
OS, have you considered that when your virus-related assertions are questioned you generally reply with another series of assertions? Which is not the same thing as answering a question. A number of people are trying to engage in discussion with you, in this. But it's difficult when your end always boils down to 'no one should be doing (or should have been doing) anything, anytime'. Your models, such as '28 days of nothing, followed by tracking, followed by 'proper' (which means what, exactly, that hasn't already been tried?) enforcement' seem somewhat plucked out of the air. It's a fact that no form of effective tracking system has been deployed in this country. It's extremely unlikely to happen,in necessary form, at this stage of the game.
Yesterday Matt Hancock, rather stupidly but possibly quite honestly, let slip that he thought that things would be 'back to normal in 2022'. Well, it's his job to focus on virus-only issues. But, if you really want to focus on virus erasure at all and every cost, that's the kind of time scale we'd be looking at. Which does what to us, as people with lives to live? I think you're underestimating how hardcore we'd all have to be and for what length of time to achieve the kind of result you're hoping for.
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Post by scorpioeyes on Dec 29, 2020 18:59:34 GMT
here's the evidence:https://www.technocracy.news/giant-study-disproves-myth-of-asymptomatic-covid-spread/
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oohaah
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Post by oohaah on Dec 29, 2020 19:11:17 GMT
This is the same website that promotes the idea that the wearing of masks causes death by oxygen depravation.
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Post by sallycat on Dec 29, 2020 19:28:39 GMT
here's the evidence:https://www.technocracy.news/giant-study-disproves-myth-of-asymptomatic-covid-spread/ That isn't evidence for that. Your critical thinking skills are limited, and that's if I'm being charitable. The study does not "disprove" anything. It provides evidence that COVID-19 wasn't transmitted by a relatively small sample of 300 people, but what's entirely missing from that paper is information about the methodology: how the participants were chosen, what they mean by "close contacts" and how those were selected and so on. Nonetheless, it's probably a perfectly valid study. If it's true that asymptomatic carriers don't spread the virus, what it's actually saying is that those who contract the virus but REMAIN asymptomatic aren't the ones spreading it. That is, those who never actually feel unwell despite having tested positive. However, once you pick it up you can transmit it to others before you become symptomatic yourself and there is ample evidence of that. The study also doesn't take into account newer mutations of the virus, which have been shown to be much more easily transmissible than what one might call the original strain, the only one the study looked at. We don't know if the same is true of the new type, which is particularly concentrated in our part of the country.
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trev
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Post by trev on Dec 29, 2020 20:40:43 GMT
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Post by os on Dec 29, 2020 21:24:48 GMT
I don't know if its common knowledge but I understand the National League is looking at switching fixtures to fulfill matches. Say we are due to play Boreham Wood and they have COVID, then the league would find another team for us to play.
Don't ask me how its going to work, or how much notice would be given but the idea is to get matches played in any order home or away.
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Post by garethl on Dec 29, 2020 21:35:09 GMT
Well that is what should have been happening all season long. It was plainly obvious fixtures would be disrupted in this manner. We’ve all known cup games to be arranged at the drop of a hat so it is achievable at short notice. It would also seem sensible at this stage to extend the season by a month. Hopefully March onwards should see significantly less disruption.
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Post by os on Dec 29, 2020 22:01:14 GMT
Well that is what should have been happening all season long. It was plainly obvious fixtures would be disrupted in this manner. We’ve all known cup games to be arranged at the drop of a hat so it is achievable at short notice. It would also seem sensible at this stage to extend the season by a month. Hopefully March onwards should see significantly less disruption. Tactical nightmare for managers though, all that work on B/W away only to find you are at home to Torquay
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Post by Andy K on Dec 30, 2020 9:18:49 GMT
But he found a link on the internet so it must be true! He can clearly follow his thinking whilst not only insulting the entire NHS and frontline workers but also the families of the 70,000 dead in the UK (and the 1.8m around the world) telling them that their loved ones death was just a fake for the "Great reset". I'm one of those family members and I'm sure I'm not alone with the readers of this forum to fall into that category. But if that means his tinfoil hat stays in place, that's all that matter to him. Regardless of any consequences.
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Post by garethl on Dec 30, 2020 10:15:01 GMT
Well that is what should have been happening all season long. It was plainly obvious fixtures would be disrupted in this manner. We’ve all known cup games to be arranged at the drop of a hat so it is achievable at short notice. It would also seem sensible at this stage to extend the season by a month. Hopefully March onwards should see significantly less disruption. Tactical nightmare for managers though, all that work on B/W away only to find you are at home to Torquay Maybe, but the management take in a number of games and tend to cover most sides pretty quickly. They have a good idea I’d imagine how most teams set up by this stage of the season, plus there is a lot of video footage. It’s a small price to pay to get on with it and of course it’s the same for both sides.
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Post by Amber Aleman on Dec 30, 2020 20:16:16 GMT
Matches now rearranged for 19 January (a) and 2 March (h). 🎂🎂
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