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Post by Jared on Apr 13, 2021 11:57:30 GMT
Personally I think I can resepct other people's respect for an individual or institution while still thinking it a slight nonsense that football kick off times are moved. If people wished to prioritize watching a televised state funeral over watching a football match, they could. If one felt sufficiently respectful it seems like no great sacrifice. The rest of us could continue, as per. Which, too, does not seem like asking for a great deal. Btw, if we're not allowing for a contrary opinion to be expressed on this matter then it seems pointless posting a thread about it. This is, after all, a forum. Not a news board. Expression of opinion is a given, is it not? I think stating that you had ‘no respect’ for a person is a little off colour and a rebuttal to that is also an expression of opinion. Anyone who knows me knows that I am a republican, that I do not believe in the institution of the monarchy and believe that it should be abolished as soon as possible. Whilst I think some of the coverage is extreme at best, I do not think it’s appropriate to state you have no respect for the individual people. I’m also annoyed that the game on Saturday has been moved both on an ideological level (I wouldn’t watch a royal wedding or the queen’s jubilee celebrations, why would I want to watch a funeral?) and on a personal level, as due to previous plans I am unavailable on Saturday morning/early afternoon. Plans I made alas to fit around a 3pm kickoff. Oh well.
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Post by markf on Apr 13, 2021 12:03:51 GMT
As Jared states where is the lack of debate here?
He expressed his opinion and I gave mine. That's not a closed argument it is an exchange of views. Forum integrity therefore intact.
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Post by davef on Apr 13, 2021 12:16:30 GMT
Keep an eye on social media for possible further news on kick-off time.
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Post by kpinwp on Apr 13, 2021 12:37:21 GMT
As Jared states where is the lack of debate here? He expressed his opinion and I gave mine. That's not a closed argument it is an exchange of views. Forum integrity therefore intact. Scorpioeyes expresed the opinion that moving the kick off times was a nonsense. It was put to him that that opinion was disrespectful. While he replied (to that) that he felt no respect, he did not initially frame the issue as a question of respect. That matter was raised and put to him, not by him. This (below) is where the attempt to shut down discussion occurred. Which was liked by 5 people. Which I find quite astonishing. Who on earth do you think you are? Please keep your opinions to yourself, and keep them off this forum.
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Post by kpinwp on Apr 13, 2021 13:04:49 GMT
Additionally from the sheer weight of complaints received by the BBC (for example) about the near two day blanket coverage of the Duke's death it should be clear that not everyone who isn't 100% on board with this is a hard nosed, flint hearted, Neo-Cromwellian Republican. I found it plain silly that, for two days, every single piece of music played on BBC Radio 3 was given a shoehorned reference to the life and times of the late Duke. This can reach a level of absurdity
Yet to those who suggest that there is simply some level of over-reaction going on, the question of 'respect' is very quickly raised. Why? Also, we'll feel the way we want to, thanks very much.
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Post by halftimet on Apr 13, 2021 14:14:10 GMT
Does anyone know what time the shops will close and reopen?
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Post by brisfitboy on Apr 13, 2021 16:18:24 GMT
Whilst the timing of the event could have been better, to call it nonsense is rather disrespectful. I have zero respect for him Scorpioeyes expresed the opinion that moving the kick off times was a nonsense. It was put to him that that opinion was disrespectful. While he (to that) that he felt no respect, he did not initially frame the issue as a question of respect. That matter was raised and put to him, not by him.This thread concerns an event. At no time was a person actually mentioned therefore the matter of disrespect towards an individual does arise as it was stated by a poster who raised it.
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Post by scorpioeyes on Apr 13, 2021 16:37:33 GMT
It is obvious in life that some people wish to 'shut up' people who express a view different to their own.That trait is sadly evident here too.
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Post by Andy K on Apr 13, 2021 16:53:09 GMT
It is obvious in life that some people wish to 'shut up' people who express a view different to their own.That trait is sadly evident here too. It's also not relevant. The subject of this discussion is about moving the games, in accordance with the League and the FA. I suggest you speak to them and tell them what you think if you are so inclined to do so. Anyone's thoughts on the late Duke of Edinburgh, positive or negative, are irrelevant to the outcome, this is a national decision. Those of us with long memories will remember a game being postponed by a day as not to coincide with the funeral of Princess Diana.
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Post by kpinwp on Apr 13, 2021 16:55:31 GMT
I have zero respect for him Scorpioeyes expresed the opinion that moving the kick off times was a nonsense. It was put to him that that opinion was disrespectful. While he (to that) that he felt no respect, he did not initially frame the issue as a question of respect. That matter was raised and put to him, not by him.This thread concerns an event. At no time was a person actually mentioned therefore the matter of disrespect towards an individual does arise as it was stated by a poster who raised it. Reference to the individual is implicit in the event. Were it not directly concerned with the individual the event (moving the kick off time) would not have occurred. It's a simple causal link.
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Post by kpinwp on Apr 13, 2021 17:09:07 GMT
It is obvious in life that some people wish to 'shut up' people who express a view different to their own.That trait is sadly evident here too. It's also not relevant. The subject of this discussion is about moving the games, in accordance with the League and the FA. I suggest you speak to them and tell them what you think if you are so inclined to do so. Anyone's thoughts on the late Duke of Edinburgh, positive or negative, are irrelevant to the outcome, this is a national decision. Those of us with long memories will remember a game being postponed by a day as not to coincide with the funeral of Princess Diana. That would be to suggest that we are able to have a discussion about an event without reference to the cause of that event. While people's assessment of the character of the late Duke of Edinburgh may well be irrelevant the question as to whether the event of his funeral is considered sufficient reason to move kick off times is not. Quite obviously. I see no reason why one should not question that, here, without feeling that the matter can only be meaningfully referred upwards to the authorities. As I intiially observed, we either allow discussion or we don't. As it's a forum, I suggest that we should.
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Post by bottleonthehead on Apr 14, 2021 18:10:30 GMT
Altrincham's website now showing game as 4:30pm kick off (in the streaming section). Do they know something we don't?
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Post by markf on Apr 14, 2021 18:19:10 GMT
Yes
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Post by Del on Apr 14, 2021 18:31:26 GMT
If it has been changed that would surely be better for the teams travel arrangements.
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Post by presssec on Apr 14, 2021 19:06:33 GMT
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