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Post by cheshire on Jun 25, 2021 13:56:19 GMT
Hang on...so we have a (home) amber strip, an (away) green strip and a (3rd) black strip. We play FGR who play in a green and black strip. So purely on the basis of avoiding a clash, why would we not wear Amber? What am I missing here?
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Post by sallycat on Jun 26, 2021 6:43:02 GMT
I heard something about the EFL having a rule that you couldn't wear your home kit at away fixtures unless absolutely unavoidable, but I have had a look at the rules themselves and it says nothing of the sort (maybe that is a Carabao Cup rule?):
In which case I agree our home kit would be the best option!
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Post by davethegrave on Jun 27, 2021 16:35:22 GMT
I think it is the referee who decides.. Surely not. I've seen plenty of top level games where there is no colour clash but the away team changes. What always amazes me is the number of times teams choose to change their kit but when Chelsea play Manchester City which always used to be a colour clash they both wear their traditional colours of Royal Blue and Sky Blue.
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Post by sallycat on Jun 27, 2021 20:18:15 GMT
If you're visually impaired, those two shades of blue would be a lot easier to identify separately than, say, dark blue and dark green. While that's not the reason for kit choices, I'd have thought the same things that make it hard for visually impaired people to make the distinction would also apply to people with intact vision having to distinguish between two moving objects within a split second. I guess the person who has to do that the most and be most certain of which is which is the referee.
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Post by oohaah on Jun 27, 2021 21:07:30 GMT
I don't think that it matters about kits clashing to what teams wear. It's surely more to do with the sponsorship on each shirt surely? Anyway, I love the fact that Sutton have to have a third kit. EFL club and all that gubbins that comes with winning a title. We don't have to have a third kit but have chosen to do so. The rule states that "each Club shall notify The League in writing details of its ‘home’ and ‘away’ kit (shirt, shorts and socks) and IF APPLICABLE any ‘third’ set of kit."
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Post by paz on Jun 29, 2021 12:45:47 GMT
I don't think that it matters about kits clashing to what teams wear. It's surely more to do with the sponsorship on each shirt surely? Anyway, I love the fact that Sutton have to have a third kit. EFL club and all that gubbins that comes with winning a title. We don't have to have a third kit but have chosen to do so. The rule states that "each Club shall notify The League in writing details of its ‘home’ and ‘away’ kit (shirt, shorts and socks) and IF APPLICABLE any ‘third’ set of kit." Perhaps it depends on your first two kit colours, and a third being applicable after the league advises due to potential color clash?
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Post by davethegrave on Jul 21, 2021 17:21:55 GMT
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Post by sallycat on Jul 21, 2021 20:20:20 GMT
Interesting - I've been saying for years that football and sport in general could do a lot more to accommodate people with colour blindness.
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Post by pinewalker on Jul 22, 2021 9:06:43 GMT
I am colour blind. It is not a problem watching football live - only the penchant for day-glow lime green GK kits which for me clash with yellow. On a TV screen, even HD, there is more of a problem. If you have normal sight and have heard of red-green colour blindness you probably guess I could not distinguish between those two. Not so, but brown is the problem. For me differentiating brown and green is guesswork. I guess green for a light coloured object and brown for a dark coloured object and that proves about 70% right.
You can see a certain number of different colours in a rainbow, but in terms of the wavelength of the light it varies right across the visible spectrum, it is the brain that groups the wavelengths into colours and sets arbitrary stops between wavelengths. A colour blind person's brain sets those stops at different places to a normal sighted person. There is a compensation somewhere else: I sometimes meet a person who thinks they are wearing a matching black outfit which is actually very dark shades of brown, navy, and red.
An easy way for Football authorities to check would be to produce a colour photo of kits side by side and then print it in greyscale. If different colours come out the same shade of grey then it is likely to be a problem for the colour blind, if the shades are different it won't be.
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Post by tonyd on Jul 22, 2021 12:40:42 GMT
For me, one of the sad things about modern football is that shirt sponsorship has brought in the age of the away strip. Back in the day it was the change strip, and you only wore it if your club colours clashed with the opposition. How many people remember that it used to be in the FA Cup that the home club changed, presumably because the home club was more likely to have a change strip available? I’m proud of our unusual colours; as far as I’m concerned, we should only change when the opposition are in yellow. As for a third strip (sound of me spitting). But of course I’ve ordered one.
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Post by sallycat on Jul 22, 2021 13:57:54 GMT
I am colour blind. It is not a problem watching football live - only the penchant for day-glow lime green GK kits which for me clash with yellow. On a TV screen, even HD, there is more of a problem. If you have normal sight and have heard of red-green colour blindness you probably guess I could not distinguish between those two. Not so, but brown is the problem. For me differentiating brown and green is guesswork. I guess green for a light coloured object and brown for a dark coloured object and that proves about 70% right. You can see a certain number of different colours in a rainbow, but in terms of the wavelength of the light it varies right across the visible spectrum, it is the brain that groups the wavelengths into colours and sets arbitrary stops between wavelengths. A colour blind person's brain sets those stops at different places to a normal sighted person. There is a compensation somewhere else: I sometimes meet a person who thinks they are wearing a matching black outfit which is actually very dark shades of brown, navy, and red. An easy way for Football authorities to check would be to produce a colour photo of kits side by side and then print it in greyscale. If different colours come out the same shade of grey then it is likely to be a problem for the colour blind, if the shades are different it won't be. That sounds like a very simple and effective solution that would make football more accessible for a lot of people. The only problem is that sometimes photographing a kit and then printing the photo doesn't provide a completely true copy of the real colour, but it's likely to be close enough.
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Post by davethegrave on Jul 23, 2021 17:34:27 GMT
For me, one of the sad things about modern football is that shirt sponsorship has brought in the age of the away strip. Back in the day it was the change strip, and you only wore it if your club colours clashed with the opposition. How many people remember that it used to be in the FA Cup that the home club changed, presumably because the home club was more likely to have a change strip available? I’m proud of our unusual colours; as far as I’m concerned, we should only change when the opposition are in yellow. As for a third strip (sound of me spitting). But of course I’ve ordered one. In Cup ties BOTH teams used to change.
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Post by davethegrave on Aug 2, 2021 19:41:58 GMT
Apparently you can collect them tomorrow and Wednesday night but what about those who can't get to the ground? Will they be posted?
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Post by sufc1898 on Aug 2, 2021 20:05:26 GMT
There was an option when you ordered it on-line for club shop collection or sent by post. Look on your emailed confirmation and it will show what you chose.
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Post by cheshire on Aug 3, 2021 9:31:27 GMT
For those of us who cannot get to the club this week and who have chosen the mail out option (and who have received a confirmation email that the order is "complete"), will it be dispatched this week and stand a chance of arriving in time for my visit to Gloucestershire at the weekend (Royal Mail permitting!!)?
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