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Post by Andy K on Oct 25, 2023 14:26:20 GMT
If we'd played anywhere close to that, I think we'd be mid table at this stage of the season. We wouldn't have lost at Doncaster, Accrington and Newport and at home to FGR and AFC Wimbledon.
Literally nothing we could have done about their 2 goals, and it's important to remember last time we played there we got stuffed and won the title.
I, like the vast majority of others, stood up and applauded the effort the team put in. This looked like a totally different side to ones that turned up at Accrington and Doncaster. Whilst the result didn't go our way, you can't legislate for either of those goals, although our one looked very much like the type of goals we've been conceding all season.
The green shoots of recovery continue to grow and I think, fitness and injury aside, we're really turning that corner.
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Post by os on Oct 25, 2023 22:39:21 GMT
The green shoots of recovery continue to grow and I think, fitness and injury aside, we're really turning that corner. Those green shoots need to become saplings.
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Post by jr on Oct 27, 2023 7:22:18 GMT
If we'd played anywhere close to that, I think we'd be mid table at this stage of the season. We wouldn't have lost at Doncaster, Accrington and Newport and at home to FGR and AFC Wimbledon. Literally nothing we could have done about their 2 goals, and it's important to remember last time we played there we got stuffed and won the title. I, like the vast majority of others, stood up and applauded the effort the team put in. This looked like a totally different side to ones that turned up at Accrington and Doncaster. Whilst the result didn't go our way, you can't legislate for either of those goals, although our one looked very much like the type of goals we've been conceding all season. The green shoots of recovery continue to grow and I think, fitness and injury aside, we're really turning that corner. Add Salford and Gillingham to that list. I disagree with Wimbledon though. I think they're the best side we've played so far this season and really should have lost by 6 or 7.
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Post by Amber Aleman on Oct 27, 2023 9:45:37 GMT
Matt has said in both interviews since this defeat that a throw-in during those closing minutes was incorrectly awarded to Wrexham, allowing them to continue their spell of intense pressure. Joe Kizzi let the ball run out of play because he saw the ball come off a home player. If the throw-in had gone our way, so relieving the pressure at least temporarily, Wrexham might well not have scored a late winner.
The error wasn't quite as egregious as those made by that fella at Crawley, but we're entitled to wonder whether we'd have a couple more points on the board had the officials been more competent.
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Post by kpinwp on Oct 27, 2023 10:53:48 GMT
Matt has said in both interviews since this defeat that a throw-in during those closing minutes was incorrectly awarded to Wrexham, allowing them to continue their spell of intense pressure. Joe Kizzi let the ball run out of play because he saw the ball come off a home player. If the throw-in had gone our way, so relieving the pressure at least temporarily, Wrexham might well not have scored a late winner. The error wasn't quite as egregious as those made by that fella at Crawley, but we're entitled to wonder whether we'd have a couple more points on the board had the officials been more competent. Not buying it. As you say, at best it would have temporarily relieved the pressure, which was onging and had lasted for a considerable period of time. So, a few seconds? Blaming the officials for a loss is always a bad look. The totaltity of the game decides the result of the match. They were better than us.
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Post by Del on Oct 27, 2023 12:09:14 GMT
Matt has said in both interviews since this defeat that a throw-in during those closing minutes was incorrectly awarded to Wrexham, allowing them to continue their spell of intense pressure. Joe Kizzi let the ball run out of play because he saw the ball come off a home player. If the throw-in had gone our way, so relieving the pressure at least temporarily, Wrexham might well not have scored a late winner. The error wasn't quite as egregious as those made by that fella at Crawley, but we're entitled to wonder whether we'd have a couple more points on the board had the officials been more competent. Not buying it. As you say, at best it would have temporarily relieved the pressure, which was onging and had lasted for a considerable period of time. So, a few seconds? Blaming the officials for a loss is always a bad look. The totaltity of the game decides the result of the match. They were better than us. Were they ? That's debatable. The difference between the teams was two wonder strikes.
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Post by kpinwp on Oct 27, 2023 12:25:51 GMT
Not buying it. As you say, at best it would have temporarily relieved the pressure, which was onging and had lasted for a considerable period of time. So, a few seconds? Blaming the officials for a loss is always a bad look. The totaltity of the game decides the result of the match. They were better than us. Were they ? That's debatable. The difference between the teams was two wonder strikes. Yeah, they were. We played with spirit and some ability. But they were better. Tactically more assured. In a groove.
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Post by jr on Oct 29, 2023 10:18:14 GMT
Matt has said in both interviews since this defeat that a throw-in during those closing minutes was incorrectly awarded to Wrexham, allowing them to continue their spell of intense pressure. Joe Kizzi let the ball run out of play because he saw the ball come off a home player. If the throw-in had gone our way, so relieving the pressure at least temporarily, Wrexham might well not have scored a late winner. The error wasn't quite as egregious as those made by that fella at Crawley, but we're entitled to wonder whether we'd have a couple more points on the board had the officials been more competent. Not buying it. As you say, at best it would have temporarily relieved the pressure, which was onging and had lasted for a considerable period of time. So, a few seconds? Blaming the officials for a loss is always a bad look. The totaltity of the game decides the result of the match. They were better than us. Sorry but that's a load of crap. The throw goes our way and then the remainder of the game is different. We still may have lost from a goal coming from a cross etc but equally we have had a breakaway and scored a winner. It's something we'll never know.
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Post by kpinwp on Oct 29, 2023 12:35:18 GMT
Not buying it. As you say, at best it would have temporarily relieved the pressure, which was onging and had lasted for a considerable period of time. So, a few seconds? Blaming the officials for a loss is always a bad look. The totaltity of the game decides the result of the match. They were better than us. Sorry but that's a load of crap. The throw goes our way and then the remainder of the game is different. We still may have lost from a goal coming from a cross etc but equally we have had a breakaway and scored a winner. It's something we'll never know. Well, if it's something that we'll never know (and a complete matter of 'what if') my opinion can't be a load of crap, can it? It's a just a different opinion from yours, for which I believe I gave sufficient reason. And an opinion that many would share. Btw, mind your manners, son.
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Post by ggl on Oct 29, 2023 22:41:28 GMT
Sorry but that's a load of crap. The throw goes our way and then the remainder of the game is different. We still may have lost from a goal coming from a cross etc but equally we have had a breakaway and scored a winner. It's something we'll never know. Well, if it's something that we'll never know (and a complete matter of 'what if') my opinion can't be a load of crap, can it? It's a just a different opinion from yours, for which I believe I gave sufficient reason. And an opinion that many would share. Btw, mind your manners, son. Why is it that both you and Andy K can never be questioned or indeed have a wrong opinion ? Neither of you can bear the thought of anyone having a different opinion to yours . Are you indeed the same person ?
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Post by os on Oct 29, 2023 23:40:39 GMT
Not buying it. As you say, at best it would have temporarily relieved the pressure, which was onging and had lasted for a considerable period of time. So, a few seconds? Blaming the officials for a loss is always a bad look. The totaltity of the game decides the result of the match. They were better than us. Sorry but that's a load of crap. The throw goes our way and then the remainder of the game is different. We still may have lost from a goal coming from a cross etc but equally we have had a breakaway and scored a winner. It's something we'll never know. If you believe in string theory and the multiverse, you will know that all outcomes occur, we just happen to be in the universe where they got the winner. Somewhere out there is a pack of U's fans celebrating that our break away winner
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Post by kpinwp on Oct 30, 2023 0:09:50 GMT
Well, if it's something that we'll never know (and a complete matter of 'what if') my opinion can't be a load of crap, can it? It's a just a different opinion from yours, for which I believe I gave sufficient reason. And an opinion that many would share. Btw, mind your manners, son. Why is it that both you and Andy K can never be questioned or indeed have a wrong opinion ? Neither of you can bear the thought of anyone having a different opinion to yours . Are you indeed the same person ? I'm more than happy to be questioned. Until the cows come home. I will also make reply. Ditto cows. Still, I did 'fess up to OS being right about the limitations of last season's forward line, after the new lot proved more effective. So, I am not beyond redemption. My main 'problem' is having studied philospohy at University. It's a life sentence, as regards arguing. For me and for anyone who talks to me. That's education for you. But you're on the money in making the general observation, imo. It's a pursuit. Actually, in recent posts, I've very much tended to agree with your points. But that may just make me more slippery than Andy K. He really digs in.
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Post by ggl on Oct 30, 2023 6:04:12 GMT
Why is it that both you and Andy K can never be questioned or indeed have a wrong opinion ? Neither of you can bear the thought of anyone having a different opinion to yours . Are you indeed the same person ? I'm more than happy to be questioned. Until the cows come home. I will also make reply. Ditto cows. Still, I did 'fess up to OS being right about the limitations of last season's forward line, after the new lot proved more effective. So, I am not beyond redemption. My main 'problem' is having studied philospohy at University. It's a life sentence, as regards arguing. For me and for anyone who talks to me. That's education for you. But you're on the money in making the general observation, imo. It's a pursuit. Actually, in recent posts, I've very much tended to agree with your points. But that may just make me more slippery than Andy K. He really digs in. Fair enough just thought I would ask ! As we are in confession mode in recent times I have been very critical of Matt and have called for him to go BUT with a recent upturn in performances perhaps I was wrong about that , just don’t tell Andy K I have said this 😬😬
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Post by jr on Oct 30, 2023 6:52:40 GMT
Sorry but that's a load of crap. The throw goes our way and then the remainder of the game is different. We still may have lost from a goal coming from a cross etc but equally we have had a breakaway and scored a winner. It's something we'll never know. Well, if it's something that we'll never know (and a complete matter of 'what if') my opinion can't be a load of crap, can it? It's a just a different opinion from yours, for which I believe I gave sufficient reason. And an opinion that many would share. Btw, mind your manners, son. I didn't know my Dad was on here, he doesn't even like football! I'm afraid it is crap because a totally different scenario would have played out because the ball would be in a totally different position and we would have had possession whether it was a few seconds or longer as the ball would be in a different area of the pitch and therefore the likelihood of Lee being in the position he was in and the ball coming to him in that position would be extremely unlikely so that event wouldn't have happened. This is a fact not an opinion.
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Post by Andy K on Oct 30, 2023 9:01:09 GMT
Why is it that both you and Andy K can never be questioned or indeed have a wrong opinion ? Neither of you can bear the thought of anyone having a different opinion to yours . Are you indeed the same person ? I'm more than happy to be questioned. Until the cows come home. I will also make reply. Ditto cows. Still, I did 'fess up to OS being right about the limitations of last season's forward line, after the new lot proved more effective. So, I am not beyond redemption. My main 'problem' is having studied philospohy at University. It's a life sentence, as regards arguing. For me and for anyone who talks to me. That's education for you. But you're on the money in making the general observation, imo. It's a pursuit. Actually, in recent posts, I've very much tended to agree with your points. But that may just make me more slippery than Andy K. He really digs in. Ha ha, as if I would. I do find it amusing when people go at me for disgreeing with them because of who they are, rather than rubbish they say. I'll always like a comment from someone if I like it, even if I've had strong disagreements with them. Just look at billy's last post And regardless to what people think, I love having my opinion changed. I wish people would do it more often. It's not my fault that doesn't happen that often
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