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Post by Burtie on Dec 23, 2010 23:23:22 GMT
1 Best 2. Pele Pele got kicked out of the 1966 World Cup , as i said earlier noone could do that to Best. How fit do you need to be to pass the ball sideways and backwards when the ball is only in play for 40 odd minutes ? Nobody could kick Best out of a world cup because he never played in one. While he may have had fantastic ability, his career all-but finished at 27, having won 37 or so caps for his country, before becoming a journeyman and going from club to club for a few bob. Reminds me of Gazza. Personally I can't classify that as being a 'great'. Anyway, based on footballers that I've actually seen something of (I haven't seen enough of Pele, Best, Puskas etc beyond highlights to properly assess), my top 3 (for very inconsistent reasons!) is: 1 Maradona 2 Van Basten 3 Giggs
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Post by Gareth on Dec 23, 2010 23:59:31 GMT
i agree with youthere,but he was also a drug taking cheat,so when the Man c faithful appluded him the other week made me really angry,it was not the hand of god .It was the hand of a cheat.that's why i have no faith in fifa,they should have said replay the game,or at least call it 1-1,and have penaltys,we probaby would have lost,but there would have been a sence of justice. Woah there...what's the difference between what he did and Owen/Gerrard etc diving for a penalty? They've done it enough times for England. He took a split-second decision to punch it over Shilton. Today's players - including England's "finest" - practice their gamesmanship in training.
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Post by medibot on Dec 24, 2010 2:48:46 GMT
i agree with youthere,but he was also a drug taking cheat,so when the Man c faithful appluded him the other week made me really angry,it was not the hand of god .It was the hand of a cheat.that's why i have no faith in fifa,they should have said replay the game,or at least call it 1-1,and have penaltys,we probaby would have lost,but there would have been a sence of justice. Get the foo over yourself. Football is reliant on the say of the referee, however wrong they turn out to be. You don't replay a game because in hindsight and with video evidence the referee was wrong, you're stuck with the ref's call at the time. Joe Jordan and Robert Wurz, UEFA and Yegor Titov? The history of Welsh football would have been different but for decisions made by Wurz & UEFA but we have to deal with the decisions made at the time. The hand of god takes nothing away from the genius of Maradona (particularly at Napoli) in the same way the Azeri linesman takes nothing away from England winning the '66 World Cup. The referee makes his call and you have to deal with it.
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Post by exiledinandover on Dec 24, 2010 6:35:32 GMT
SO do you advocate no goalline technology,but leave it to the refs call,i'm not saying Maradona did'nt have great talent his other goal was fantastic,but he was a cheat,simple.NOT hand of god,hand of a cheat.
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Post by frakey on Dec 24, 2010 7:11:58 GMT
The difference between Owen's "diving" and Maradona's handball are massive. Owen went over a challenge that never got near the ball. Maradonna punched the ball in the net and then wheeled away to celebrate as if he had headed it in legitimately. I've seen loads of penalties given for challenges such as the one on Owen, I've seen very few goals like that of Maradonna thank God.
A huge difference.
Anyway Gareth, written just like a Scot! lol.
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Post by mrneil on Dec 24, 2010 7:50:26 GMT
There is, and always has been cheats in the game of football, lets just say that most of them are more diplomatic and discreet than Maradonna. Yes Maradonna revelled in it, and rubbed our noses in it afterwards with his "hand of god" comment, but at the end of the day a cheat is a cheat.
I was as outraged as any other England fan on that particular day, and for many years afterwards, but I still think we would have lost, and probably deserved to lose. Also, I have never been able to work out why such a short little bloke was able to outjump one of the best goalkeepers in the world. Handball or no handball, Shilton should have made it his.
Nuff said
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Post by filbert on Dec 24, 2010 10:36:22 GMT
Nobody has mentioned Francis Lee have they? Now he could win penalties. ;D Burtie I know football is a game of opinions but your first one about George Best is frankly ridiculous.
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Post by dontpanic on Dec 24, 2010 11:17:39 GMT
Francis Lee , Terry Howard in disguise!
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Post by exiledinandover on Dec 24, 2010 11:32:12 GMT
Was'nt he chinese Lee one pen.
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Post by taz on Dec 24, 2010 12:19:23 GMT
Sorry, but did OS actually compare Sami Nasri to George Best??
WTF?
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Post by fox on Dec 24, 2010 13:23:16 GMT
The only thing I can think of to compare is cooking (I have no idea why!) but in the 60's & 70's you were considered an expert cook if you could knock up a spag bol - now everyone can do it so it's not so special.
However I do think if those players were playing today they would still have the capacity to produce that something special and rise above the ordinary.
But as said we will never know......
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Post by Burtie on Dec 24, 2010 14:52:56 GMT
Get the f*ck over yourself. Come on old boy, where's your festive spirit St Nick?
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Post by Burtie on Dec 24, 2010 14:57:08 GMT
Nobody has mentioned Francis Lee have they? Now he could win penalties. ;D Burtie I know football is a game of opinions but your first one about George Best is frankly ridiculous. Why is it ridiculous?
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Post by Burtie on Dec 24, 2010 15:02:51 GMT
The only thing I can think of to compare is cooking (I have no idea why!) but in the 60's & 70's you were considered an expert cook if you could knock up a spag bol - now everyone can do it so it's not so special. So what you're saying is that modern players are better footballers AND better cooks? I agree - I don't want my centre-forward turning up to a dinner party with some ghastly prawn cocktail in this day and age.
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Post by exiledinandover on Dec 24, 2010 15:21:00 GMT
That's no way to talk about the players missus!
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