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Post by sallycat on Apr 22, 2015 17:40:29 GMT
Hi Justin. Looking forward to building a great relationship between the two clubs! Exciting news as I don't think we have ever had a groundshare before.
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Post by markn on Apr 22, 2015 18:24:51 GMT
Hi Justin.
Welcome to the forum. I have some good friends with links to your club (a former programme sponsor, a former first team player and a pal who I believe was in your vets set up until fairly recently). They normally lean towards Carshalton rather than Suttonbut now you are ground sharing with us I will try to get them to see the light !!
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Post by Del on Apr 22, 2015 20:06:01 GMT
Our reserves don't play midweek and yes they could have continued to play at Banstead at a cost! It makes economic sense for us for SCR to groundshare but i can't believe this all came about by coincidence and don't see how SCR can afford this.Yes i'm sure there will be mutual benefits regarding players.
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Post by justinscrfc on Apr 22, 2015 20:41:37 GMT
Our reserves don't play midweek and yes they could have continued to play at Banstead at a cost! It makes economic sense for us for SCR to groundshare but i can't believe this all came about by coincidence and don't see how SCR can afford this.Yes i'm sure there will be mutual benefits regarding players. Hi Delboy, What I mean is some clubs that groundshare have got their reserves to play midweek as the suburban league as they do allow this. This would of been an option but that's nothing to do with us and we have never been involved in any conversations regarding it. I can assure you we didn't know anything about your reserves situation as it really wasn't any of our business. In terms of being able to afford it, we know exactly what we can and can't afford so an agreement wouldn't be in place if we couldn't afford it. I hope that puts your mind at rest on the points you mentioned. We honestly really look forward to being back in our home borough of Sutton and hope that local people (including some existing Sutton United supporters) come and support our small Sutton team when your big Sutton team are on their away travels.
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Post by markf on Apr 22, 2015 20:55:10 GMT
Our reserves don't play midweek and yes they could have continued to play at Banstead at a cost! It makes economic sense for us for SCR to groundshare but i can't believe this all came about by coincidence and don't see how SCR can afford this.Yes i'm sure there will be mutual benefits regarding players. So, everyone is lying then delboy?
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Post by Del on Apr 22, 2015 21:00:06 GMT
Hi Justin.
No i appreciate that the reserves situation was nothing to do with yourselves and as you say you know what you can afford.I've had experience with what others pay for groundshares but that is bye the bye. Anyway,welcome back to Sutton.I'm not sure what year your club was formed but remember senior teams playing over Sutton Common rec when i was a youngster.
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Post by Del on Apr 22, 2015 21:02:17 GMT
Our reserves don't play midweek and yes they could have continued to play at Banstead at a cost! It makes economic sense for us for SCR to groundshare but i can't believe this all came about by coincidence and don't see how SCR can afford this.Yes i'm sure there will be mutual benefits regarding players. So, everyone is lying then delboy? I'm not getting into an argument with you about this all though you seem to want one.
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Post by Millsy on Apr 22, 2015 21:12:39 GMT
Justin, will Darren be DJing after Sunday's match?
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Post by justinscrfc on Apr 22, 2015 22:06:54 GMT
Hi Justin. No i appreciate that the reserves situation was nothing to do with yourselves and as you say you know what you can afford.I've had experience with what others pay for groundshares but that is bye the bye. Anyway,welcome back to Sutton.I'm not sure what year your club was formed but remember senior teams playing over Sutton Common rec when i was a youngster. The club was formed in 1978 by my Dad (Alan Salmon). When he 1st started the club we was involved with Centre 21 (now the life centre) were some of our original players came from and Sutton Common Rec was one of the grounds in the borough we used to play at. My Dad lives in Sutton Common Road that's how the name of Sutton Common Rovers FC came about.
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Post by justinscrfc on Apr 22, 2015 22:11:47 GMT
Justin, will Darren be DJing after Sunday's match? He hasn't DJ'd for a few years now but if we win on Sunday that would be a good excuse for him to roll back the years and play a few tunes
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Post by markf on Apr 23, 2015 7:12:29 GMT
So, everyone is lying then delboy? I'm not getting into an argument with you about this all though you seem to want one. Who's looking for an argument? I asked a question based on your previous posts even though Justin from SCR had explained their position. I note you have finally accepted that explanation. Not sure why that took so long?
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Post by Del on Apr 23, 2015 10:49:02 GMT
I wasn't implying that SCR had anything to do with our reserves being disbanded.
Just for clarification it has been obvious for years that the standard at which the reserves play is a lot lower than at CS level so it is difficult to make the step up.
The club therefor has three options available:
1) Bring the reserves back to play at GGL but at a higher level which would increase costs.
2) Bring in SCR but continue to play the reserves at Banstead.
3)Bring in SCR & scrap the reserves.
The economics of laying a 3G/ 4G pitch dictate that the club need to maximise revenue from the pitch to payback loans asap.
My original comment was "now we know no why we aren't running a reserve team." Disappointing for aspiring players but dictated by economics.
Picked up by SCR to suggest that them coming here was the reason but that wasn't my intention.We couldn't have had a groundshare if we still had a reserve team playing at GGL.
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Post by Andy K on Apr 23, 2015 14:16:32 GMT
I repeat what I've stated a number of times before on here. The reserve side play at too weak a level for those players to significantly improve. I suggested the idea of a feeder club arrangement (with the caveat of not knowing enough about the rules for that to be feasible).
SCR moving to GGL is irrelevant to the equation in these circumstances. So option 3 doesn't exist. Dos and Bruce both have stated that the club as a business should operate on a 7 day a week basis rather than a once in 14 days if we're lucky basis.
The lack of reserve side in my opinion has nothing whatsoever to do with economics with the exception of adding an additional cost to the club with limited returns. As I've also stated before, the percentage of players coming from the reserve side into this level of football (whether it be here or elsewhere) is very low.
Let's be like any other decent landlord and welcome our new tenants. I'm sure the deal struck is both financially viable and mutually beneficial for both sides. How much SCR are "paying" to play at GGL is not our business but whatever it is, it's going to be more than we get without having a club share with us.
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Post by garethl on Apr 24, 2015 18:09:48 GMT
I was also surprised by the affordability of the deal for SCR. I don't mean any disrespect to them. That was more to do with the fact I anticipated the new surface would be high demand and I expected a lucrative deal with a side in the top 2 divisions. Maybe those clubs already have deals in place elsewhere. Maybe there is room for another user at academy level or something similar.
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