norman1
Youth Team Player
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Post by norman1 on Apr 26, 2019 11:25:27 GMT
I wonder if there is an ex Premiership player (loaded of course) who has been living and leaning his coaching trade in the South, that might interview us, like Dos did and make us an offer??
We are such a great Club anything is possible!
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oldman
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Post by oldman on Apr 26, 2019 11:26:39 GMT
How about Nick Baily
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Post by maw on Apr 26, 2019 11:46:00 GMT
Cue..... Wayne Shaw
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trev
1st team skipper
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Post by trev on Apr 26, 2019 12:56:06 GMT
I wonder if there is an ex Premiership player (loaded of course) who has been living and leaning his coaching trade in the South, that might interview us, like Dos did and make us an offer?? We are such a great Club anything is possible!
I have to say that suggestions like this make me exceedingly uncomfortable. One of the biggest problems with the modern game is its transience, with so many clubs going from riches to rags in the blink of an eye, the main reason for this being the number of football teams that place excessive reliance on a single, wealthy benefactor.
Everything is rosy in the garden for teams that rely on sugardaddying, unless and until that sugardaddy loses interest/falls out with the club/passes away/leaves for health reasons etc. Then the club in question is invariably back to square one, or in many cases, in a considerably worse off position than they were in the first place.
By contrast, one of the many impressive features of our club is the fact that we are collectively owned by a large number of shareholders, none of whom hold a significant controlling interest. This means that if one single shareholder decides to drop out for whatever reason, it has negligible adverse impact on the club, financially.
Perhaps we have been a little spoilt in recent years with having Dos as our manager, an outstandingly generous man who has managed our club gratis and invested a significant proportion of his own wealth into our club, most notably in the development of our playing surface. Perhaps the best way forward now is to look to spread the load more evenly across our personnel, rather than placing so many of our eggs into one basket, even if that basket happens to be exceptionally woven?
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Post by Andy K on Apr 26, 2019 13:11:46 GMT
I wonder if there is an ex Premiership player (loaded of course) who has been living and leaning his coaching trade in the South, that might interview us, like Dos did and make us an offer?? We are such a great Club anything is possible!
I have to say that suggestions like this make me exceedingly uncomfortable. One of the biggest problems with the modern game is its transience, with so many clubs going from riches to rags in the blink of an eye, the main reason for this being the number of football teams that place excessive reliance on a single, wealthy benefactor.
Everything is rosy in the garden for teams that rely on sugardaddying, unless and until that sugardaddy loses interest/falls out with the club/passes away/leaves for health reasons etc. Then the club in question is invariably back to square one, or in many cases, in a considerably worse off position than they were in the first place.
By contrast, one of the many impressive features of our club is the fact that we are collectively owned by a large number of shareholders, none of whom hold a significant controlling interest. This means that if one single shareholder decides to drop out for whatever reason, it has negligible adverse impact on the club, financially.
Perhaps we have been a little spoilt in recent years with having Dos as our manager, an outstandingly generous man who has managed our club gratis and invested a significant proportion of his own wealth into our club, most notably in the development of our playing surface. Perhaps the best way forward now is to look to spread the load more evenly across our personnel, rather than placing so many of our eggs into one basket, even if that basket happens to be exceptionally woven?
Spot on Trev. I can deal with silly assumptions, like so and so manager has been spotted on Sutton so it must be him, but this sort of attitude is I feel utterly short sighted with an emphasis on just the money. Have they not listened to previous Q&As about "moneybags" coming into the club and the board and their policy on that. And I think it's a bit insulting on Dos too.
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Post by ontheup on Apr 26, 2019 13:33:29 GMT
Lots of talk of Jay Saunders going to you in our neck of the woods (Maidstone) He is a legend as far as I’m concerned, big shoes to fill at your place but given he and Dos are good friends it wouldn’t surprise me to see him take up the reins. 14th, 19th and an early season "mutual consent" termination of contract at this level isn't that inspiring to me, although I can see why he's a legend in your parts. I totally understand why you would think that but the guy has worked wonders on a very tight budget.
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Post by banjo on Apr 26, 2019 13:46:33 GMT
Would be a good choice and yes he has done a good job on a tight budget and he’s available.
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Post by Del on Apr 26, 2019 16:44:33 GMT
14th, 19th and an early season "mutual consent" termination of contract at this level isn't that inspiring to me, although I can see why he's a legend in your parts. I totally understand why you would think that but the guy has worked wonders on a very tight budget. Would be an excellent choice in my opinion
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Post by wellie on Apr 26, 2019 18:21:22 GMT
Jay Saunders has left Margate!
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Post by davethegrave on Apr 26, 2019 20:36:51 GMT
Andy Scott would be my choice. Actually that's a very interesting choice. Obviously connected with Sutton to keep those who feel that the manager must have that connection, but with higher level experience and since his last managerial job has been scouting for Brentford and Watford and has been the Sporting director until I believe this month. Quite possibly the most sensible suggestion I've seen so far! Very interesting suggestion. I was wondering myself what ex-players were around and available. It would be good to have someone back who knows the club. I did wonder though whether Andy would be happy to come back depending on the salary on offer.
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Post by os on Apr 26, 2019 23:00:57 GMT
Although this doesn't feel right, a bit like discussing the inheritance at the funeral, but one name not mentioned is Chris Kinnear, he did a great job at Dover apart from one dodgy season, he kept them challenging for the playoffs.
Dos has spent 11 years work turning our club around, everything was flat as a fart when he came in, it was his energy that lifted us from Ryman to be within one match of FL status. Its now time for our board to step up to the challenge, we don't want to see a similar decline as we witnessed after the great Barrie Williams left.
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Post by sallycat on Apr 27, 2019 5:58:17 GMT
A few people are saying it would be good to have someone who knows the club. I'm not saying that would be a bad thing, but the club has completely changed since anyone mentioned in that capacity has been involved, so how much of a difference would it make? Dos didn't know the club when he arrived and look at what happened: a fresh pair of eyes saw that we were a bit, er, behind the times. Not that I would expect our new manager to do all the stuff over and above team management that Dos did, I'm just saying maybe it's not that important to have the existing connection. I can see why you'd want it, and it would be nice to have someone who really wants Sutton to do well, but I'm sure anyone would after getting to know our amazing club a little.
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tommo
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Post by tommo on Apr 27, 2019 7:19:02 GMT
14th, 19th and an early season "mutual consent" termination of contract at this level isn't that inspiring to me, although I can see why he's a legend in your parts. I totally understand why you would think that but the guy has worked wonders on a very tight budget. As is shown by the fact that his successor was given financial backing Jay never had, and his successor's successors are two managers and a full time coach. One thing you can be certain of, there will be no lack of applicants.
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Post by guildrover on Apr 27, 2019 11:22:44 GMT
My Ipswich supporting neighbour jokingly said Paul Hurst is available, who of course had a fair amount of success at this level with Andy Scott's brother when they managed Grimsby. He also took Bolarinwa to Grimsby and loaned us Drinan earlier this season so I think he knows Doswell and will know all about Sutton United.
Like Andy Scott however, having managed higher he probably wouldn't want to drop back down to this level with a club of our size but he could pick a far worse place to rebuild his career seeing as we are such a stable club not known for a high turnover of managers.
I'd imagine he'd be too expensive though.
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Post by garethl on Apr 27, 2019 16:55:34 GMT
Although this doesn't feel right, a bit like discussing the inheritance at the funeral, but one name not mentioned is Chris Kinnear, he did a great job at Dover apart from one dodgy season, he kept them challenging for the playoffs. Dos has spent 11 years work turning our club around, everything was flat as a fart when he came in, it was his energy that lifted us from Ryman to be within one match of FL status. Its now time for our board to step up to the challenge, we don't want to see a similar decline as we witnessed after the great Barrie Williams left. I would be beyond disappointed if we appointed Kinnear. Only plays one way and it’s not something I’d like to watch.
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