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Post by pinewalker on Oct 27, 2019 17:31:48 GMT
Has the Opportunities Mist wafted into the interview room? Or is Matt fading away like the Cheshire Cat? Even the sound on this interview seems muffled.
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Post by sallycat on Oct 27, 2019 18:55:52 GMT
As for mca’s aunt , I think I once met her at a party !! I had a (great-) aunt called Bob. She was not my uncle.
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Post by ggl on Oct 27, 2019 22:45:41 GMT
I cannot top that sallycat but when I was growing up we had a female cat called Simon . Where that name originated from I do not know but my parents were told the kitten they were buying was a boy ........ until it went to the vets for its first check up !
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Post by baboonfish on Oct 28, 2019 11:44:47 GMT
For years we have congratulated our board on their financial prudence and mocked clubs like Ebbsfleet that have sold out to sugar daddies and then struggled when the money has run out. Now people are saying we should do the same. But, in reality, that may be the only way we can stay in this league. People who say there is a crisis on the pitch are looking the wrong way. To give you some idea of what we are competing against, there were experienced managers who applied in the summer that wanted a playing budget of £60k a week. That would mean that, including pre-season our current budget would be spent by mid-September. However, it's worse than that. Anyone who has seen the accounts for last year will know that the club lost £250k last season. Some of that was a one-off payment to refurbish the MBA lounge and sales of shares covered most of the rest. But we can't keep raising money that way and, as the playing budget is only slightly less than last year, my reckoning is that the club is on track to lose £150k this season. Therefore, there are 3 options as I see it: find £150k through our own efforts, which is why the Amber 500 is so important; find someone who is willing to put at least £150k into the club (more if we want to be competitive) this season, next season, and guarantee that for every season going forward (for which they will presumably want a significant say in the running of the club); or reduce the playing budget (and that may not be too far away). Ultimately it comes down to what people want for this Football Club and what efforts they are prepared to put in to help it. My opinion is that any funding needs to be sustainable long-term and a sugar daddy is only a short-term fix. The club, like all businesses, needs to balance the books and, if we can't generate extra income through our own efforts, then the grim reality is that cuts will have to be made. Fascinating post thanks for the insight. If the budget is so tight it really does beg the question why we are not making more use of the loan system. If the answer is lack of a decent black book then it's another reason why Matt is perhaps not the man for the job. We need a right back, better central defensive cover and perhaps a striker, three decent loan signings could make us competitive as the core of the squad is good enough. I wonder how much of butlers poor form is down to having no competition this season. I know we can't afford two no. 1s but Butler and Worner pushed each other to greater heights last season, butlers made some stunning saves and his handling and kicking are always good but the errors are very worrying.
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Post by tonyd on Oct 28, 2019 16:06:53 GMT
Where do you think Ajiboye, Randall, Bugiel, Milsom, Matsuzaka, Jarvis, Reid and Goodliffe came from if not from MG's contacts? People will be blaming the manager for the bad weather soon.
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Post by baboonfish on Oct 28, 2019 18:20:33 GMT
Where do you think Ajiboye, Randall, Bugiel, Milsom, Matsuzaka, Jarvis, Reid and Goodliffe came from if not from MG's contacts? People will be blaming the manager for the bad weather soon. I'm posing a question Tony, not stating a fact. We have no right back and clearly not found the right balance up top, Steve m's extraordinarily candid post has shed much light on the financial challenges the club faces, so surely loan signings are the way forward. I am asking if gray has the contacts to make any decent loan signings or if the party line of 'loan signings benefit the parent club only' is an excuse. I don't have an informed opinion either way and neither would surprise me. Tony I have massive respect for your service to the club but your tone on here is becoming increasingly terse and it's starting to resemble the style of defensiveness coming out of the Tory party. Some of those signings were impressive and I've repeatedly stated I think grays assembled a decent core squad, but can he pull out some decent emergency loan signings? I hope so cos we badly need a few.
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Post by Big Al on Oct 28, 2019 20:08:29 GMT
Where do you think Ajiboye, Randall, Bugiel, Milsom, Matsuzaka, Jarvis, Reid and Goodliffe came from if not from MG's contacts? People will be blaming the manager for the bad weather soon. Definitely some potential in those signings and maybe in the Manager as well but we are dealing in the here and now. The reality is that it is these players and this coaching team who are responsible for the position we find ourselves in and the quality of performance that has put us there. Where a team is in the position we are in and getting the results we are getting then the fans are entitled to question whether it is the quality of the team or the direction/ strategy/ tactics they are receiving from the manger or both. it really is not the answer, as some others seem to infer, to suggest that the team is just going through a patch of bad luck and that we should continue on in the same vein...
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Post by garethl on Oct 28, 2019 20:34:03 GMT
For years we have congratulated our board on their financial prudence and mocked clubs like Ebbsfleet that have sold out to sugar daddies and then struggled when the money has run out. Now people are saying we should do the same. But, in reality, that may be the only way we can stay in this league. People who say there is a crisis on the pitch are looking the wrong way. To give you some idea of what we are competing against, there were experienced managers who applied in the summer that wanted a playing budget of £60k a week. That would mean that, including pre-season our current budget would be spent by mid-September. However, it's worse than that. Anyone who has seen the accounts for last year will know that the club lost £250k last season. Some of that was a one-off payment to refurbish the MBA lounge and sales of shares covered most of the rest. But we can't keep raising money that way and, as the playing budget is only slightly less than last year, my reckoning is that the club is on track to lose £150k this season. Therefore, there are 3 options as I see it: find £150k through our own efforts, which is why the Amber 500 is so important; find someone who is willing to put at least £150k into the club (more if we want to be competitive) this season, next season, and guarantee that for every season going forward (for which they will presumably want a significant say in the running of the club); or reduce the playing budget (and that may not be too far away). Ultimately it comes down to what people want for this Football Club and what efforts they are prepared to put in to help it. My opinion is that any funding needs to be sustainable long-term and a sugar daddy is only a short-term fix. The club, like all businesses, needs to balance the books and, if we can't generate extra income through our own efforts, then the grim reality is that cuts will have to be made. Fascinating post thanks for the insight. If the budget is so tight it really does beg the question why we are not making more use of the loan system. If the answer is lack of a decent black book then it's another reason why Matt is perhaps not the man for the job. We need a right back, better central defensive cover and perhaps a striker, three decent loan signings could make us competitive as the core of the squad is good enough. I wonder how much of butlers poor form is down to having no competition this season. I know we can't afford two no. 1s but Butler and Worner pushed each other to greater heights last season, butlers made some stunning saves and his handling and kicking are always good but the errors are very worrying. But we do have another keeper - Dudzinski! And he’s due a go in my humble opinion. It’s one area where we could potentially improve things dramatically with the personnel we have. Not to do Butler down but as pointed out elsewhere someone with a bit of height may make a huge difference given as a team we are distinctly lacking in the giant department in comparison to other teams. Someone commanding the box can definitely help the set piece jitters we have and potentially breed a bit of confidence through the defence. I’ve also been feeling a few times this season shouldn’t our goalkeeper be saving or doing better with that? I’m not convinced he gets to shots others would do. Isn’t the point on loan signings that we probably don’t have any budget to spend? Or maybe 1 at most after Bennett’s retirement . . .
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Post by Del on Oct 28, 2019 20:40:24 GMT
We won't be getting in a right back at the present time. We have other players who can play there effectively. Jon Barden/Craig Eastmond/ Tom Bolarinwa and my choice would be Dan Matsuzaka who came on and played well at Billericay.
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Post by davethegrave on Oct 28, 2019 21:48:22 GMT
I think to some extent we're overloaded in certain positions but lacking in others. We all know we need a proper right back unless we want to maybe play with three at the back. Then we'd need another commanding centre back. If we could unload one or two it might help the budget.
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Post by Andy K on Oct 29, 2019 19:23:43 GMT
Where do you think Ajiboye, Randall, Bugiel, Milsom, Matsuzaka, Jarvis, Reid and Goodliffe came from if not from MG's contacts? People will be blaming the manager for the bad weather soon. I'm posing a question Tony, not stating a fact. We have no right back and clearly not found the right balance up top, Steve m's extraordinarily candid post has shed much light on the financial challenges the club faces, so surely loan signings are the way forward. I am asking if gray has the contacts to make any decent loan signings or if the party line of 'loan signings benefit the parent club only' is an excuse. I don't have an informed opinion either way and neither would surprise me. Tony I have massive respect for your service to the club but your tone on here is becoming increasingly terse and it's starting to resemble the style of defensiveness coming out of the Tory party. Some of those signings were impressive and I've repeatedly stated I think grays assembled a decent core squad, but can he pull out some decent emergency loan signings? I hope so cos we badly need a few. I've just been asked by Tony Dolbear to clarify that he's not Tonyd on the forum (not that he has any issue with what Tonyd posts) but just to make aware that although like many he does read the forum from time to time, he doesn't post - just in case anyone got the two mixed up!
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Post by timbo on Oct 31, 2019 23:27:03 GMT
Why should we accept relegation, as I said in another post it up to the board to fined the money. If that means bringing in the money from out side the club then they should do that. I have never understood why the board are so reluctant to do that, as it was said at the Dos meet meet the manager if we want to really compete we must get more money in, I agree with that. So we go down then, people will say no ambition and then we get the low gates ones a gain. so com on board please sort it out, I say that as a long standing s.u.fc fan. where do you suggest the money comes from? Amber500 has shown the fans are mostly out of cash to donate. Nobody wants to just accept relegation, but being inthis league is a pricy business and maybe we are a level above our natural fit. I personally don't think the manager is up to it, but also am not convinced anyone else could do enough to keep us up. If we're doing predictions, I think us, Chorley and Ebbsfleet are doomed I may have misunderstood Amber 500, but it looks to be rather high on the "donate" element and doesn't seem to be good value / odds for the punter
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Post by davethegrave on Nov 1, 2019 20:33:39 GMT
where do you suggest the money comes from? Amber500 has shown the fans are mostly out of cash to donate. Nobody wants to just accept relegation, but being inthis league is a pricy business and maybe we are a level above our natural fit. I personally don't think the manager is up to it, but also am not convinced anyone else could do enough to keep us up. If we're doing predictions, I think us, Chorley and Ebbsfleet are doomed I may have misunderstood Amber 500, but it looks to be rather high on the "donate" element and doesn't seem to be good value / odds for the punter That's what I said elsewhere but I got slagged off for it.
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Post by Del on Nov 1, 2019 21:08:36 GMT
I may have misunderstood Amber 500, but it looks to be rather high on the "donate" element and doesn't seem to be good value / odds for the punter That's what I said elsewhere but I got slagged off for it. Well of course it is but providing all tickets are sold it gives you a chance of winning a top prize of £7000 plus other prizes some of which have yet to be announced. It is a way of helping out the club and plugging a gap in our finances. Our season ticket prices are ridiculously low compared with other clubs in our league and you you could quite easily pay double what you have and next season they will probably have to go up if initiatives don't work.
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Post by Nick the Greek/The Speshul One on Nov 1, 2019 21:32:24 GMT
Maybe it would be a good time to announce these other prizes.
Maybe make it clear what they are thinking for next years season ticket prices.
We are supposed to all be in together, but it doesn’t feel that way.
Freeze season ticket price but no suggestion of what it would be, and I think we would struggle to put prices up if we get relegated.
I will be buying a share of a ticket, but not because of this “incentive”.
I’m pretty confident I’ll have a season ticket next year.
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