kpinwp
1st team Player
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Post by kpinwp on Feb 16, 2021 12:55:25 GMT
The NL need to get a hold of this. Publish the results and do it now and let’s crack on. Clubs like Dover, Wealdstone and whoever else will start gathering pace because as we all know the noisy few in whatever walk of life for some reason make so much noise.... Seconded. The League need to draw this to a conclusion asap, or things will become anarchic. I've no idea why they thought they had the time for a leisurely, month long, consultaion in the first place. As with all things pandemic related, time is of the essence. |
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Post by sol on Feb 16, 2021 13:17:53 GMT
With Wealdstone voting to end the season, what the chance of them following Dover and not playing the game at Sutton on Saturday? RAWALKER34: Hope you’re well firstly. That’s exactly my point - your spot on. It ends up as a mess. I’m not that smart, but why oh why do you let these issues fester. Vote 🗳- and have deadline of 1 week Max not 28 days - it’s farcical. |
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Post by Amber Aleman on Feb 16, 2021 13:54:44 GMT
I believe that the 28 days for voting is set out in the NL constitution. But one would have thought the NL Board would have powers to make emergency decisions without balloting all member clubs.
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Post by garethl on Feb 16, 2021 13:56:39 GMT
Agreed Sol. Hopefully enough results are in to announce this week!
I don’t think Wealdstone have gone quite so nuclear option as Dover. Seems like they will play whilst votes are collated.
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Post by garethl on Feb 16, 2021 14:02:06 GMT
I believe that the 28 days for voting is set out in the NL constitution. But one would have thought the NL Board would have powers to make emergency decisions without balloting all member clubs. Seems almost implausible a vote to agree an emergency shorter voting period, of say 5-7 days, wasn’t possible! |
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Post by davep on Feb 16, 2021 15:26:48 GMT
I fully support any club electing to take steps to secure their long-term future - even if such decisions may be tinged with an element of opportunism. No one knows for certain what the medium term future might bring - so the National League has to make a decision based on the best information that they have at this time. Kicking the can down the road simply potentially risks the worst possible outcome for clubs. Personally, I wouldn't want Sutton to carry on playing this season if it means that they would start next season laden with debt - and such an approach would appear to be at odds with the excellent way that those currently responsible for running the club have managed its affairs for a number of years. Others may feel differently.
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Post by sol on Feb 16, 2021 16:08:56 GMT
Hope you’re well DAVEP.
My point is slightly different in the fact why start the season when you (you being the NL/DCMS) have only provided 3 months of support when a football ⚽️ season is 10 months.
And now the clubs rebelling are:
19: Wealdstone
21: Kings Lynn
22: Dover
(Credit to Barnet & Weymouth).
My old pops always taught me when you start something finish it, don’t leave it unfinished as you will always quit when life starts getting tough.
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Post by rawalker34 on Feb 16, 2021 16:16:35 GMT
In reply to your comment, I am well an d as I live alone, the only things I look forward is doing Cubs scouts on zoom once a week and watching Sutton on stream as. Season ticket holder.
Cancelling Tuesday game does not help and if there is no more Sutton games until September, I will be bored so a decision on the future of National League ends to be made shortly and not spend another 2 weeks whilst Clubs make their own decisions. Although I understand they need to put their financial position in a safe place.
Why did not the National Leagues look at the financial position in late December ahead of the end of the initial grant?
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Post by Andy K on Feb 16, 2021 17:02:49 GMT
Hope you’re well DAVEP. My point is slightly different in the fact why start the season when you (you being the NL/DCMS) have only provided 3 months of support when a football ⚽️ season is 10 months. And now the clubs rebelling are: 19: Wealdstone 21: Kings Lynn 22: Dover (Credit to Barnet & Weymouth). My old pops always taught me when you start something finish it, don’t leave it unfinished as you will always quit when life starts getting tough. The more I think about it, the more of a farce it becomes. Clubs voting to end the season to save their status. Whilst virtually every club will be struggling financially, using this as an excuse to avoid relegation makes me angry. As Sol says, credit to Barnet and Weymouth. Will these clubs reimburse season tickets as a result of voting to end the season? Supporters have, in good faith bought season tickets on the proviso that they pre bought access to all home league games of the season. I feel that clubs voting to end the season are breaking that bond. As far as I'm aware, Bromley were the only club refusing to sell season tickets for that very reason. I may be cynical and I'm not saying in any way the league have handled this with any competence, and this is entirely predictable. At least Wealdstone and Kings Lynn have not said they refuse to play like the passive aggressive sulk of Dover. At least those are, although voting to end the league, are going to carry on until the decision is made, and continue to lobby. I'm sorry, I have no sympathy for Dover at all now. |
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Post by davep on Feb 17, 2021 11:47:24 GMT
No one can deny that playing half the season is (in hindsight) ridiculous. Plenty of mistakes have been made - in part by the Government but primarily by the National League. However, this is an unprecedented situation - and making any decisions has clearly been difficult given all the uncertainties. If all National League football stops today I would have a lot more sympathy for Dorking Wanderers than Dover - but it would seem unreasonable to decide promotion and relegation issues when less than half of the season has been played. Similarly though, it is unreasonable to ask clubs to carry on playing with the commensurate costs when they are effectively denied any opportunity to generate substantive income. I would be surprised if paying spectators are permitted to attend matches again this season - even if it is played in its entirety. I'm looking forward to hopefully seeing Sutton play at the Lane next season - and for many seasons to come. Whether that's in the National League, National League South, Rymans League or Division 2 is a secondary consideration for me right now.
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