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Post by bottleonthehead on Mar 26, 2021 17:09:19 GMT
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Post by amberman on Mar 27, 2021 8:23:24 GMT
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Post by Jared on Mar 27, 2021 11:34:49 GMT
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Post by kpinwp on Mar 27, 2021 12:04:04 GMT
Ah, Dover's odd perspective that the League's rules only apply until they unilaterally decide that they don't.
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Post by mca on Mar 27, 2021 12:23:52 GMT
Slightly off topic, but seems the NL n/s teams are talking about a vote of no confidence in the leagues management. To fine teams, who presumably are skint, for not fulfilling fixtures, while they waited for a vote, which ended the season seems like an extraordinary act
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Post by davethegrave on May 29, 2021 10:17:42 GMT
Article about them on BBC website today. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-57177208I think like most (was) non-league supporters we all feel for the supporters of other clubs. I think they've suffered enough so a points deduction OK but the fine is unrealistic in their position. |
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Post by oohaah on May 29, 2021 19:06:28 GMT
Article about them on BBC website today. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-57177208I think like most (was) non-league supporters we all feel for the supporters of other clubs. I think they've suffered enough so a points deduction OK but the fine is unrealistic in their position. Every time I feel sorry for Dover I see an article that says 'woe is us, we've had to go part time'. |
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Post by ambermonkey on May 30, 2021 6:18:25 GMT
I believe the fine was intended to be not only a punishment but also to ensure that Dover (and others) didn't end up in a better financial position that the clubs who continued to play.
For example a club like King's Lynn who wanted to end the season but abided by the vote to continue playing will have incurred expenses in paying players (though some were furloughed), travel costs etc. Dover had none of these outgoings and so would be financially better off.
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Post by tonyd on May 30, 2021 8:55:35 GMT
The other 22 clubs managed to carry on. I have no sympathy for Dover.
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Post by Andy K on May 30, 2021 21:01:48 GMT
The other 22 clubs managed to carry on. I have no sympathy for Dover. Exactly this. Dover were in trouble of their own making way beyond Covid and tried to take everyone else down with them. |
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Post by os on May 30, 2021 23:08:11 GMT
I think this is a difficult one, its true that others carried on, and clubs like Kings Lynn raised the money to continue.
But then it is also true that the National league left clubs in no doubt that a further cash injection would be fourth coming if it was required. It maybe that had Dover of known that that wasn't the case that they may have choose not to start the season.
I can honestly see both sides here, neither side come out of it too well. I just wonder if the punishment is a little harsh?
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Post by markf on May 31, 2021 5:27:49 GMT
Yes, the NL Board did appear to get that wrong but wasn't the Dover chairman part of that board at the time?
Maybe that info wasn't available to all board members which would be odd if it wasn't or maybe the NL had thought they had assurances that there would be another grant.
Perhaps he needs to do a Cummings?
However, as I suggested at the time, Dover's apparent one man band business model was, like so many other similar ones in the lower levels of football, not robust enough to withstand a crisis of any description.
That appears to be their chairman's strategy and the old "all eggs in one basket" approach has left them well short.
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Post by jr on May 31, 2021 7:43:08 GMT
I think this is a difficult one, its true that others carried on, and clubs like Kings Lynn raised the money to continue. But then it is also true that the National league left clubs in no doubt that a further cash injection would be fourth coming if it was required. It maybe that had Dover of known that that wasn't the case that they may have choose not to start the season. I can honestly see both sides here, neither side come out of it too well. I just wonder if the punishment is a little harsh? Given that Parmenter was on the NL board and the way he's behaved I think he's taking the p*ss. I actually think the punishment is not harsh enough. Should have relegated them too or a 20 point plus deduction. in fact given that you get deducted points for playing an unregistered player etc not fulfilling 29 games should mean they start on -87 points if they're not going to relegate them. |
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Post by Del on May 31, 2021 11:54:31 GMT
I think this is a difficult one, its true that others carried on, and clubs like Kings Lynn raised the money to continue. But then it is also true that the National league left clubs in no doubt that a further cash injection would be fourth coming if it was required. It maybe that had Dover of known that that wasn't the case that they may have choose not to start the season. I can honestly see both sides here, neither side come out of it too well. I just wonder if the punishment is a little harsh? Given that Parmenter was on the NL board and the way he's behaved I think he's taking the p*ss. I actually think the punishment is not harsh enough. Should have relegated them too or a 20 point plus deduction. in fact given that you get deducted points for playing an unregistered player etc not fulfilling 29 games should mean they start on -87 points if they're not going to relegate them. Your a hard man !  |
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