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Post by davethegrave on Apr 13, 2022 19:38:42 GMT
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Post by davef on Apr 13, 2022 22:07:21 GMT
Nothing to do with us
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Post by sallycat on Apr 14, 2022 8:40:20 GMT
It's nice enough but I wouldn't buy unofficial merchandise and take money away from the club.
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Post by trev on Apr 14, 2022 9:20:02 GMT
Probably not the sort of thing that should be advertised or otherwise promoted on this forum.
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Post by Jared on Apr 14, 2022 11:53:14 GMT
There’s part of me who is sneakily proud that there’s unofficial Sutton merchandise as it means we’re big time.
That however will haunt my nightmares
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Post by Andy K on Apr 14, 2022 12:41:35 GMT
They're an abomination.
I'm sure everyone really likes an utterly garish design which breaks copyright on a "baseball jersey"
Done by people who have no clue about English football to make a quick buck (and I use the word buck on purpose) out of those too stupid enough to know better.
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Post by trev on Apr 14, 2022 16:12:07 GMT
Aesthetic considerations aside, although I am not an intellectual property lawyer, I'm pretty sure that the badges and crests of English football clubs are the artistic works of the individual clubs and are therefore entitled to copyright protection within the meaning of section 3(1) of the Copyright Designs and Patent Act 1988 as confirmed by the Court of Appeal in Football Association Premier League Ltd and others v Panini UK Ltd [2003] EWCA Civ 995... www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2003/995.htmlI am not sure this forum should be used to link to material which is arguably unlawful. |
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Post by davethegrave on Apr 14, 2022 16:36:38 GMT
I just wonder how they get away with it. As Trev says surely there's copyright involved.
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Post by davef on Apr 14, 2022 17:18:13 GMT
If something is not available through our club shop then it’s not official club merchandise
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Post by trev on Apr 14, 2022 18:03:39 GMT
I just wonder how they get away with it. As Trev says surely there's copyright involved. If you accept the merchandise infringes Sutton United's copyright then why link to it? |
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Post by davethegrave on Apr 14, 2022 18:28:41 GMT
I just wonder how they get away with it. As Trev says surely there's copyright involved. If you accept the merchandise infringes Sutton United's copyright then why link to it? I just wondered who was aware of it and who can produce such a thing if it's not club/league endorsed. |
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Post by trev on Apr 14, 2022 18:32:20 GMT
If you accept the merchandise infringes Sutton United's copyright then why link to it? I just wondered who was aware of it and who can produce such a thing if it's not club/league endorsed. If that's your genuine concern then you should have raised it directly with the club rather than circulate illicit material on the forum. |
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Post by ambertaff on Apr 14, 2022 19:58:29 GMT
I just wondered who was aware of it and who can produce such a thing if it's not club/league endorsed. If that's your genuine concern then you should have raised it directly with the club rather than circulate illicit material on the forum. Fair point, Trev, but you could also argue that by raising the matter here then some of the Sutton United community are "educated" that the merchandise is "hookie gear" and will, more likely than not, spend their money on the genuine articles bought through the club shop. Personally, got a lot of confidence that the average U's supporter would be happy to spend a bit more on getting high quality genuine merchandise and in knowing that the profits go to supporting the club they love. |
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Post by trev on Apr 15, 2022 7:55:46 GMT
If that's your genuine concern then you should have raised it directly with the club rather than circulate illicit material on the forum. Fair point, Trev, but you could also argue that by raising the matter here then some of the Sutton United community are "educated" that the merchandise is "hookie gear" and will, more likely than not, spend their money on the genuine articles bought through the club shop. Personally, got a lot of confidence that the average U's supporter would be happy to spend a bit more on getting high quality genuine merchandise and in knowing that the profits go to supporting the club they love. According to the link most of the available stock has now been sold, so you may be mistaken in your assessment. |
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Post by pinewalker on Apr 15, 2022 18:06:06 GMT
The seller is based in Delaware. This is the US state of rogue companies (and a well known glove puppet) where it is possible to hide the names of the owners / directors from public records. If you are going to flout copyrights, that protection enables you to close the company and start a new one without incurring a record.
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