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Post by genghis on Apr 23, 2024 20:34:01 GMT
I got my wish! We’re still in with a shot…
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Post by garethl on Apr 23, 2024 20:46:15 GMT
Hard to believe we’re going to the last day.
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Post by FaultyyearsaU on Apr 23, 2024 20:49:08 GMT
Unfortunately a draw is good enough for both of them Saturday. Anybody reminded of Germany v Austria 82 😏 What I’d give for any of those points we’ve dropped this season😞
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Post by opus2024 on Apr 23, 2024 20:55:30 GMT
Not sure on that looking at goal difference a win for barrow would pip crewe drawing.
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Post by sufc1898 on Apr 23, 2024 20:56:50 GMT
Crewe will want to win (to hopefully finish 5th) so to get the second leg at home.
Outside chance of us being live on TV. I think there is one or two live games on Sky at 3pm
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Post by garethl on Apr 23, 2024 20:57:26 GMT
Unfortunately a draw is good enough for both of them Saturday. Anybody reminded of Germany v Austria 82 😏 What I’d give for any of those points we’ve dropped this season😞 Yeah had been on my radar before today. My word we could do with those 2 extra points from Saturday just gone!
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Post by garethl on Apr 23, 2024 21:00:26 GMT
Crewe will want to win (to hopefully finish 5th) so to get the second leg at home. Outside chance of us being live on TV. I think there is one or two live games on Sky at 3pm They do probably want a result behind them for confidence. Their last couple of months or so have been dreadful, apparently much improved against Wrexham. They might need minutes into injured first choice players coming back. Still clutching those straws.
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Post by VCLXI on Apr 23, 2024 21:00:48 GMT
How an 8-0 defeat not happening would have helped too. But you can't pin point any certain game. They all add up in the end.
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Post by FaultyyearsaU on Apr 23, 2024 21:02:20 GMT
Not sure on that looking at goal difference a win for barrow would pip crewe drawing. They only need to finish above Crawley to at the least be in the play offs don’t they? What have I missed 🤔
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Post by bailo on Apr 23, 2024 21:11:13 GMT
Well, Saturday's going to be agonising, isn't it?
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Post by kpinwp on Apr 23, 2024 21:30:01 GMT
How an 8-0 defeat not happening would have helped too. But you can't pin point any certain game. They all add up in the end. Indeed it would. Many dropped points and some foolish moments. But, if you up your game in a couple of matches then other teams tend to, too.
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Post by sallycat on Apr 23, 2024 21:55:03 GMT
Set you a middle ground case, then. Say the goal difference was nine. That's only (sic) 2 more. Doable? Still hope? Say it was 10. Same questions. 11? .... When does it become insurmountable? This is totally irrelevant, because it isn't. It was seven. And now it's four. A 3-0 win for us on Saturday and a 2-0 defeat for Colchester would keep us up. I don't think Colchester are that likely to lose, certainly not by many. It's still very unlikely we'll pull this off. But football is funny and human psychology is funny and I think the pressure is getting to Colchester so who knows? Obviously our players know this and they also know that whilst the other results are out of their hands, a 4-0 win keeps our fate in our own hands if Colchester are to lose at all, because if they don't then we're down anyway. We really don't want to be relegated because we've lost 11 matches, they've lost 10 and everything more important than that is equal. Get that four goal margin and nothing else matters. MK Dons have nothing to lose if we score a hatful past them. You can say all you like about wanting momentum for the playoffs, they'd probably say it's more important not to risk key players getting injured against a side that is absolutely desperate for a win. And desperation for survival probably trumps momentum when it comes to psychological advantages!
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Post by kpinwp on Apr 23, 2024 22:25:49 GMT
Set you a middle ground case, then. Say the goal difference was nine. That's only (sic) 2 more. Doable? Still hope? Say it was 10. Same questions. 11? .... When does it become insurmountable? This is totally irrelevant, because it isn't. It was seven. And now it's four. A 3-0 win for us on Saturday and a 2-0 defeat for Colchester would keep us up. I don't think Colchester are that likely to lose, certainly not by many. It's still very unlikely we'll pull this off. But football is funny and human psychology is funny and I think the pressure is getting to Colchester so who knows? Obviously our players know this and they also know that whilst the other results are out of their hands, a 4-0 win keeps our fate in our own hands if Colchester are to lose at all, because if they don't then we're down anyway. We really don't want to be relegated because we've lost 11 matches, they've lost 10 and everything more important than that is equal. Get that four goal margin and nothing else matters. MK Dons have nothing to lose if we score a hatful past them. You can say all you like about wanting momentum for the playoffs, they'd probably say it's more important not to risk key players getting injured against a side that is absolutely desperate for a win. And desperation for survival probably trumps momentum when it comes to psychological advantages! I'd have to suggest that you were missing my point. Which was; at what point does a goal difference overthrow become 'insurmountable' in people's expectations or, more to the point, hopes. If people hope that a overthrow of 7 isn't insurmountable then why not one of 8? Or of 9? You own point was that it was, in principle, doable in terms of what might be expected in the context of football matches. But people have different senses of what is and isn't doable. The discussion, or my part of it, was concerned with what is and isn't a foolish hope. I point that I rather laboured, I thought. And yet still didn't cut through. Hope, by nature, isn't just a matter of the literal.
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Post by sallycat on Apr 23, 2024 22:54:46 GMT
No, I do get you. I just don't think a difference of 7 goals in 2 games is really that unfeasible. 3 or 4 goal margins aren't uncommon. We had one tonight. To answer your question, I don't know at what point it would become unsurmountable, but why does it matter when it isn't what we're looking at?
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Post by genghis on Apr 23, 2024 23:18:23 GMT
This is totally irrelevant, because it isn't. It was seven. And now it's four. A 3-0 win for us on Saturday and a 2-0 defeat for Colchester would keep us up. I don't think Colchester are that likely to lose, certainly not by many. It's still very unlikely we'll pull this off. But football is funny and human psychology is funny and I think the pressure is getting to Colchester so who knows? Obviously our players know this and they also know that whilst the other results are out of their hands, a 4-0 win keeps our fate in our own hands if Colchester are to lose at all, because if they don't then we're down anyway. We really don't want to be relegated because we've lost 11 matches, they've lost 10 and everything more important than that is equal. Get that four goal margin and nothing else matters. MK Dons have nothing to lose if we score a hatful past them. You can say all you like about wanting momentum for the playoffs, they'd probably say it's more important not to risk key players getting injured against a side that is absolutely desperate for a win. And desperation for survival probably trumps momentum when it comes to psychological advantages! I'd have to suggest that you were missing my point. Which was; at what point does a goal difference overthrow become 'insurmountable' in people's expectations or, more to the point, hopes. If people hope that a overthrow of 7 isn't insurmountable then why not one of 8? Or of 9? You own point was that it was, in principle, doable in terms of what might be expected in the context of football matches. But people have different senses of what is and isn't doable. The discussion, or my part of it, was concerned with what is and isn't a foolish hope. I point that I rather laboured, I thought. And yet still didn't cut through. Hope, by nature, isn't just a matter of the literal. On the last game of the 21/22 season, Bristol Rovers overcame a 5 GD to achieve automatic promotion to League One. We have a 4 GD to overcome. We’ve won 2 games this season by a 4 goal margin. If we can do on Saturday what we’ve already done twice this season, and those worthless Colchester lose, then we are guaranteed to stay up. If they lose by a 2+ goal margin, which they have done 9 times this season, then that improves our odds also. I can understand that you might have been upset the other day, but you were individually replying to every poster to tell them to give up and that we were definitely down. Other than pride, I’ve no idea why you would still defend that position.
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