neil
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Post by neil on Oct 31, 2024 15:37:50 GMT
Was reading some extracts from a new book by Adam Hurrey called 'Extra Time Beckons, Penalties Loom - How to use (and abuse) the language of football' and some of the following brought a smile to my face. 'In football, bans are always "lengthy" and a player's move from one club to another can only be "protracted". One hears of a cultured left foot, but not a cultured right foot. A ground is a fortress or a cauldron. Outfield players make mistakes; goalkeepers commit "howlers". Plenty of the sport's idioms make sense: its a game of two halves, the fans are "the twelfth man" and windows of opportunity invariably slam shut. Yet, other sayings seem perverse: why do some say a 2-0 lead is dangerous, and is it really the case that you can score too early ? Can the amount of effort be 110 per cent and the muddled judgement "that was a great cross, but there was no one there". Finally, I always seem to find funny Andy's oft heard phrase "Come on football' said in a gruff 'Northern' accent.  |
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Post by suttonpodcast on Oct 31, 2024 17:44:41 GMT
You rarely hear "petulant" or "adjudged" outside football either
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Post by davethegrave on Oct 31, 2024 19:17:11 GMT
You don't get squads any more. They're groups.
Somebody playing well is Unplayable whereas I would think if they're unplayable you shouldn't pick them.
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Post by boomboom on Oct 31, 2024 19:40:38 GMT
I've got several little books of amusing/silly football quotes.
My favourite, and highly topical, is Doug Ellis's when he was introducing Nigel Kennedy, a keen Villa fan, to the Villa Park faithful: "You don't get this at Birmingham City!" It's become a fond catchphrase in our family.
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Post by cheshire on Nov 1, 2024 9:45:00 GMT
To flip this on its head...there's 2 things that I hear that I really dont like: one has become part of modern football parlance: A "delicious" pass, cross or through-ball. NO! Describe it as beautiful ball (its the beautiful game), a deft pass or some thing similar but sorry; food is "delicious". (I personally have no desire to ingest a football).
The other thing that annoys is the use of "proper" when describing the FA Cup (1st round proper, etc). Sorry its the First Round. Yes, the cup ties that take place prior to this are 1st Qualifying round, 2nd Qualifying round, etc. but 1st round Proper?? Its not correct grammatically and no one describes that big FIFA tournament every 4 years as the "World Cup Proper"?
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Post by sallycat on Nov 1, 2024 13:27:41 GMT
It is correct grammatically. The word "proper" has a lot of obscure definitions, many of which are only used in specific phrases like this one. Which has been around much longer than "modern" football. See: doi.org/10.1093/OED/3566548845. In this sense, it sort of means "the real thing." I think I have heard "World Cup proper" used as opposed to the qualifying stages, but I might be mistaken. It would be perfectly correct English, anyway |
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Post by cheshire on Nov 1, 2024 14:55:39 GMT
So because its antiquated phraseology, its about time it was brought up to date!! They keep "updating" the competition-I for one would be delighted if they updated this bit! Thank you. Rant over!
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Post by sallycat on Nov 1, 2024 16:19:15 GMT
But it is still widely used and isn't antiquated at all. I'm surprised you haven't heard it elsewhere. Like, "the suburbs are cheap to live in compared with London proper."
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Post by oohaah on Nov 5, 2024 8:33:32 GMT
It is correct grammatically. The word "proper" has a lot of obscure definitions, many of which are only used in specific phrases like this one. Which has been around much longer than "modern" football. See: doi.org/10.1093/OED/3566548845. In this sense, it sort of means "the real thing." I think I have heard "World Cup proper" used as opposed to the qualifying stages, but I might be mistaken. It would be perfectly correct English, anyway The late, and very great, Barrie Williams, 'our chaps are proper chaps'. |
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