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Post by kalaharidave on May 4, 2014 8:37:30 GMT
If Modeste got the ball, it was a fair but unfortunate challenge. Wait for the highlights. Most say he got the ball, the Lino was right there and didn't see it as a foul.
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Post by ambertaff on May 4, 2014 8:57:54 GMT
Sallycat - excellent point about FA Cup records. But this in some ways highlights the "end of season" issue. We do great in cup games in the autumn, come May our record in "cup style games" falls away. The odds against losing all seven playoffs and SSC finals would be 130-1 against assuming we were, on average, even money in each game.
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Post by baboonfish on May 4, 2014 9:13:59 GMT
If Modeste got the ball, it was a fair but unfortunate challenge. Wait for the highlights. Most say he got the ball, the Lino was right there and didn't see it as a foul. Rubbish. He came right through Spetch's ankle before taking the ball, the only thing in the lino's defence was the speed of the challenge but from 30 or 40 yards away we could see it was a bad foul so inexcusable. I think most of the ground was in shock about that decision, unbelievably poor and I would even go as far to say that 'tackle' pretty much won the game for Dover as Spetch looked to have Modeste under control while young King was sadly well out of his depth in both games against him. I am not bitter about the result or the Dover display, simply how that particular incident panned out as it was a disgrace. |
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Post by kalaharidave on May 4, 2014 9:23:25 GMT
If Modeste got the ball, it was a fair but unfortunate challenge. Wait for the highlights. Most say he got the ball, the Lino was right there and didn't see it as a foul. Rubbish. He came right through Spetch's ankle before taking the ball, the only thing in the lino's defence was the speed of the challenge but from 30 or 40 yards away we could see it was a bad foul so inexcusable. I think most of the ground was in shock about that decision, unbelievably poor and I would even go as far to say that 'tackle' pretty much won the game for Dover as Spetch looked to have Modeste under control while young King was sadly well out of his depth in both games against him. I am not bitter about the result or the Dover display, simply how that particular incident panned out as it was a disgrace. Fair enough, but let's see the highlights. He certainly isn't a dirty player. |
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Post by exiledsufc on May 4, 2014 9:25:57 GMT
100% right baboonfish,the lino was actually,in the wrong position,being right behind Spetch as he was tackled
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Post by tonyd on May 4, 2014 9:30:07 GMT
There have been a lot of poor comments on here about the players not trying or caring.In my opinion that is absolute rubbish.They all gave 100% but at the end of the day didn't have the guile to break down the Dover rearguard.Unfortunately we couldn't called on Slabber & Binns who i sure would be game changers.We started off brightly enough but when Spetch went off injured it was a big blow.We laboured after that and King seemed to have lost his confidence.Marvin hasn't obtained full match fitness yet and our squad wasn't quite big enough.Talk of oiling the doors on the revolving door would be silly as we do have some good players and just need to add to them. Thank god for some sanity. The people talking about the players being gutless are reflecting their own disappointment and are an emabarassment to themselves. It is ridiculous to suggest that any of the team didn't want to do their best and try their hardest. Unfortunately non-league players cannot play with complete consistency (that's why they are non-league) and those who didn't perform to their normal level will be well aware of it and as disappointed as the rest of us. We go again next year, with the best manager in the league. |
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Post by baboonfish on May 4, 2014 10:14:41 GMT
Thank god for some sanity. The people talking about the players being gutless are reflecting their own disappointment and are an emabarassment to themselves. It is ridiculous to suggest that any of the team didn't want to do their best and try their hardest. Unfortunately non-league players cannot play with complete consistency (that's why they are non-league) and those who didn't perform to their normal level will be well aware of it and as disappointed as the rest of us. We go again next year, with the best manager in the league. Quite right Tony, I have been there as an amateur player and its bad enough when you feel youve let down just your teammates let alone hundreds of Sutton fans. However, I think the performance was so poor it simply cannot be swept under the carpet - examinations have to be made in order to avoid a repeat. Good teams, good managers or anyone who is good at what they do learns from mistakes and from history so we must examine, regroup and go again next year, hopefully with the vast majority of the current squad as there is no doubting their quality. |
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Post by nigcapgue on May 4, 2014 10:20:16 GMT
Thank god for some sanity. The people talking about the players being gutless are reflecting their own disappointment and are an emabarassment to themselves. It is ridiculous to suggest that any of the team didn't want to do their best and try their hardest. Unfortunately non-league players cannot play with complete consistency (that's why they are non-league) and those who didn't perform to their normal level will be well aware of it and as disappointed as the rest of us. We go again next year, with the best manager in the league. Quite right Tony, I have been there as an amateur player and its bad enough when you feel youve let down just your teammates let alone hundreds of Sutton fans. However, I think the performance was so poor it simply cannot be swept under the carpet - examinations have to be made in order to avoid a repeat. Good teams, good managers or anyone who is good at what they do learns from mistakes and from history so we must examine, regroup and go again next year, hopefully with the vast majority of the current squad as there is no doubting their quality. Perhaps one should read the article in the Non- League paper which clarifies ALL our feeelings |
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Post by nigcapgue on May 4, 2014 10:35:57 GMT
Any idea what the official attendance was this afternoon? over 1700 after an extensive advertising campaign and one would be surprised if many return! |
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Post by amberchoc on May 4, 2014 11:22:21 GMT
Echoes of the depressing feelings after Wycombe '93.
When Tony announced the teams over the tannoy, my heart sank a bit when Binnsy's name wasn't mentioned in the squad. I turned to my mate next to me and said "Oh dear, I've got a bad feeling about this". I haven't yet discovered why he was missing. Anybody? He'd have been ideal cover after Will Spetch got viciously taken out. |
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Post by sallycat on May 4, 2014 11:23:46 GMT
Sallycat - excellent point about FA Cup records. But this in some ways highlights the "end of season" issue. We do great in cup games in the autumn, come May our record in "cup style games" falls away. The odds against losing all seven playoffs and SSC finals would be 130-1 against assuming we were, on average, even money in each game. Yes. It's got to the point where I'm going to playoff games expecting to lose because of this. And that's a really bad attitude I need to change! |
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Post by wizzer on May 4, 2014 12:03:24 GMT
Oh dear Oh dear Oh dear here we go again another failure at the playoff stage, but i like so many feel very let down by our Teams performance i could sense no purpose no passion at a time when we had so many expectations and hope, i know football like life throws up the unexpected and that we all react in different ways but if my expectations as a Sutton Utd supporter was high surely those at the top (the players) must have had a sense of occasion they were Naff, i waited to see if there was a plan and that perhaps the second half would produce a better performance/outlook as it has done in the past,but no the same uninspired lot came out and carried on
As for the question of Where is our Support the definition of support is to give help to something / someone but there has to be something to begin with we tried and tried but we got nothing
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Post by markf on May 4, 2014 14:04:22 GMT
As Dos has been quoted in the NLP today, you'd have to ask the players why they didn't respond to the magnitude of the occasion. We're all disappointed but some of the descriptions on here are going well over the top and many fail to give credit to Dover for their performance.
We had one really bad performance over the last half of the season it just had to happen in the biggest game. I suspect the players aren't too happy about it either. I'm not sure they worked their socks off for 22 games to then not to deliver yesterday on purpose.
As for our support, Sutton has never had the sort of following that Dover had yesterday (perhaps save for Aylesbury away in 1999). And certainly not the sort that sings constantly throughout.
As for Modeste's challenge, I wait to see but playing the ball is no longer a reason for it to be a fair challenge. Because, if in doing so he follows through on the opponent the perpetrator is deemed not to be in control and would at least get a yellow card. As I say, we wait to see the highlights (assuming that incident is included).
Season is over; time to move onto the next one but also reflect in how we did over 42 games and not just dwell on one cup tie.
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Post by sallycat on May 4, 2014 16:16:04 GMT
Very well said Mark.
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Post by Amber Aleman on May 4, 2014 17:34:10 GMT
Yup, time to move on. No point in dwelling on what went wrong in one game when we know the team can do much better.
If Dos sticks with it and keeps most of this squad together, Sutton must be in with a great chance of winning the division next season. Our league form since January is evidence enough. It will help that two of our main promotion rivals this season will have gone up.
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