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Post by davethegrave on Sept 5, 2018 22:34:06 GMT
As far as I'm concerned the culprit should be banned from all football - full stop!
I have heard some obnoxious comments from some of the newer supporters.
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Post by Andy K on Sept 6, 2018 6:36:26 GMT
Wow, that's grim. Where was that? (You've probably told me before but I can't remember) It was at the Cyprus FA Cup semi final in 2006 I think. Chap was 3 rows behind me and lit the flare which then pretty much exploded in his hand. |
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Post by amberfc on Sept 6, 2018 13:39:57 GMT
As far as I'm concerned the culprit should be banned from all football - full stop! I have heard some obnoxious comments from some of the newer supporters. I also heard some horrific comments at Aldershot. Racism and anti-Semitism is completely not acceptable. |
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Post by Andy K on Sept 6, 2018 16:42:13 GMT
As far as I'm concerned the culprit should be banned from all football - full stop! I have heard some obnoxious comments from some of the newer supporters. Heard similar from older ones too. Being one of "The youth" and being obnoxious, homophobic, racist etc are mutually exclusive. |
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Post by davethegrave on Sept 6, 2018 19:56:05 GMT
As far as I'm concerned the culprit should be banned from all football - full stop! I have heard some obnoxious comments from some of the newer supporters. Heard similar from older ones too. Being one of "The youth" and being obnoxious, homophobic, racist etc are mutually exclusive. I may abuse the referee and linesmen and the dirty opposition players but I've never wanted to fight anybody. |
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Post by sallycat on Sept 6, 2018 20:37:17 GMT
Are you the only older fan then? Think he probably wasn't talking about just you. Although it is pretty obnoxious to abuse people who are just trying to do a job, yeah.
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Post by VCLXI on Sept 6, 2018 21:06:29 GMT
I'm not a shouter really. I think the young people who go are generally decent and create a good atmosphere. I'd never yell abuse at an official no matter how terrible they are. I quite enjoy standing and being quiet whilst soaking it all in.
Obviously I'm yelling like a mad man when a goal is scored but other than the chants which are offensive I can never understand why fans will slag off the players that play for the team they support, no matter if they are having a bad game.
Yeah, way to go to get all that confidence back up in the player they slate.
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Post by davethegrave on Sept 10, 2018 17:26:42 GMT
There is a collection behind me who often slag off their own players including a certain ticket seller but I try to save my slagging off for the opposition - and referee and linesman.
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Post by Andy K on Sept 10, 2018 18:50:55 GMT
There is a collection behind me who often slag off their own players including a certain ticket seller but I try to save my slagging off for the opposition - and referee and linesman. Whilst many of us try and go to games to watch the football and support our team without feeling the need to slag anyone off. I've been doing it all wrong it seems... |
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Post by markf on Sept 10, 2018 20:10:26 GMT
The holier than thou appear to be alive and well on here.
This started as a thread about a ludicrous act that could have endangered someone and has turned into a points scoring exercise on how people should or should not express their passion while watching their team.
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Post by sallycat on Sept 10, 2018 20:24:51 GMT
No, not "expressing passion." Abuse. Let's not dress it up.
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Post by markf on Sept 10, 2018 20:25:49 GMT
That didn't take long.
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Post by markf on Sept 11, 2018 9:59:04 GMT
Passion covers the full spectrum of human emotion i.e from love to hate. With hate you get anger and with anger you get abuse.
In France there used to be a law (might still be) "crime de passionale" (excuse the spelling but my French is worse than my English - which takes some doing). That law tested a criminal act, normally murder and if found to be a c.d.p. the defendant would escape a guilty of 1st degree murder verdict often commuted to manslaughter.
I can't think of anything more abusive to an individual than taking their life. So if using the word passion to describe some fans' penchant of giving the ref some abuse is "dressing it up" then perhaps the definition of the word passion should be change to reflect that, so as not to confuse me or any other poor soul that has spent their adult life thinking it was based on the definition within the English language.
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Post by brisfitboy on Sept 11, 2018 10:46:49 GMT
Passion covers the full spectrum of human emotion i.e from love to hate. With hate you get anger and with anger you get abuse. In France there used to be a law (might still be) "crime de passionale" (excuse the spelling but my French is worse than my English - which takes some doing). That law tested a criminal act, normally murder and if found to be a c.d.p. the defendant would escape a guilty of 1st degree murder verdict often commuted to manslaughter. I can't think of anything more abusive to an individual than taking their life. So if using the word passion to describe some fans' penchant of giving the ref some abuse is "dressing it up" then perhaps the definition of the word passion should be change to reflect that, so as not to confuse me or any other poor soul that has spent their adult life thinking it was based on the definition within the English language. Very eloquently put. This is where political correctness and life crash. We should all be standing/sitting and not say a word, because our fathers and grandfathers-and mums and grand mums-used to voice their opinions that was then, now we must bow to the PC brigade. There is a dividing line between abuse and passion and as law abiding citizens most of us know how far to go without being told. If the Crime of Passion had been on the law books in this country Ruth Ellis would never have been hanged. |
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Post by Andy K on Sept 11, 2018 10:57:38 GMT
Passion covers the full spectrum of human emotion i.e from love to hate. With hate you get anger and with anger you get abuse. In France there used to be a law (might still be) "crime de passionale" (excuse the spelling but my French is worse than my English - which takes some doing). That law tested a criminal act, normally murder and if found to be a c.d.p. the defendant would escape a guilty of 1st degree murder verdict often commuted to manslaughter. I can't think of anything more abusive to an individual than taking their life. So if using the word passion to describe some fans' penchant of giving the ref some abuse is "dressing it up" then perhaps the definition of the word passion should be change to reflect that, so as not to confuse me or any other poor soul that has spent their adult life thinking it was based on the definition within the English language. There's a big difference to me. Using you as an example. I've heard you hundreds of times and actually without exception you have a pop at the ref when they get things wrong and you always post after if you think the ref has been good. Your delivery is passion/abuse (whichever you prefer) but you are just as quick to praise as you are to be critical. That's a very different approach to those who will just be plain nasty for the simple reason that they are the ref or they are an opponent. And not comparable. Your approach is based on what your are watching. Others are based on prejudice. I know which approach I'm more comfortable in hearing. |
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