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Post by garethl on Oct 19, 2018 14:14:03 GMT
Always gave us his best efforts which is all we can ask whilst players are with us. I don't particularly feel it's a massive loss nor do I think he is a 'great' player as has been written in this thread. He did a job up front and put in some hard yards. I think if you're looking towards the higher spots in the league you probably need somebody a little better up front either for general ability as somebody who holds the ball up and brings other players into the game, as a goal scorer or goal creator. Just my opinion.
In contrast to Pinewalker I looked at the accounts and thought they looked ok. We spent part (but not all) of the profit from the FA Cup year, including a substantial amount on the ground. I know the board will keep a tight grip on it. That is why finances might be tight for players now, because we have a proper budget and don't lose control.
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Post by Andy K on Oct 19, 2018 14:36:38 GMT
There's nothing finer than someone coming on the public forum saying they think the accounts look grim. Grim is a club that are struggling to make ends meet, or wildly slashing the budget by getting rid of most of their team, or not paying players wages. Letting one player go who hasn't featured much in 2 months and who has gone to a club who are throwing money around doesn't link up.
Sorry Pinewalker, as you are entitled to think the accounts look grim, then I'm just as entitled to think that it pays a huge disrespect to the board who managed the clubs finances so well and by doing so on a place where anyone in the world can duly see your assumption (however close or further from the truth you perceive it to be) as quite irresponsible.
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Post by trev on Oct 19, 2018 14:57:40 GMT
"Grim" is nothing further than the truth. Whilst it is undoubtedly correct that the last financial year's accounts showed a deficit, this has to be balanced against the fact that the preceding year's accounts displayed a very substantial profit, largely because our absolutely fantastic run in the FA Cup.
It should also be pointed out that save for wages, the most significant expenditure last year was in improving the club's infrastructure and developing an enduring legacy for the club's future.
Money well spent, some might say.
It also goes without saying that we are in good financial shape, and without going into too much detail, the board are in the process of taking steps to ensure that this will continue to be the case in the years to come.
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Post by halftimet on Oct 19, 2018 15:39:56 GMT
Have to agree with Sol on this one. Drinnan and Ayunga preferred up front at the moment and with a plethora of midfield players 4-3-3 seems to be the way forward.
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Post by Del on Oct 19, 2018 17:52:30 GMT
Well considering we were looking at the P& L account in isolation rather than the club balance sheet it was always going to show a deficit. If we were to show that sort of deficit this year i would be worried but its not going to happen as we don't have it to spend at the present time. Maybe a good Cup Run would boost the finances especially as prize money has been doubled this season.
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Post by mitcham_badlander on Oct 19, 2018 17:53:05 GMT
Good luck Ross. My highlight was that cracking equaliser in off the crossbar away at Wrexham last season; lowlight was when he lost a tooth at Solihull this season.
Re money being tight, it might be because we won't have played a proper home game for a month and so don't have much cash coming in at the moment (although I think I heard somewhere that the Bohs gate will be split). Also a lot of money would have gone / will go into ground improvements, which knocks the profit and loss account but improves the balance sheet.
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Post by Del on Oct 19, 2018 17:54:40 GMT
We will get prize money from Irn Bru after defeat in Dublin but i can't seem to find where it is published.
I believe we got 10k expenses for travelling to Dublin & 5k for travelling to Glasgow in addition to prize money.
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Post by Andy K on Oct 19, 2018 18:42:24 GMT
Wouldn't it be great if we had a chairman who was a chartered accountant or something. Ahhh one can only dream eh?
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Post by os on Oct 19, 2018 21:23:43 GMT
There's nothing finer than someone coming on the public forum saying they think the accounts look grim. Grim is a club that are struggling to make ends meet, or wildly slashing the budget by getting rid of most of their team, or not paying players wages. Letting one player go who hasn't featured much in 2 months and who has gone to a club who are throwing money around doesn't link up. Sorry Pinewalker, as you are entitled to think the accounts look grim, then I'm just as entitled to think that it pays a huge disrespect to the board who managed the clubs finances so well and by doing so on a place where anyone in the world can duly see your assumption (however close or further from the truth you perceive it to be) as quite irresponsible. Having been around the club for the last 40 years (that is a long time), I can safely say that in all them years the club has always been skint. If we have not won anything we are skint, if we have got some money in, its to pay of what the club owes. Our board members are trained from birth to say 'we are skint'. I remember during the FA Cup run thinking we could prize some money from the board for our project, Big Wayne used to laugh at me. I thought I would get in quick, but alas that was to no avail  So we are just as skint as usual, but in truth our board and 'Sir' Dos do an amazing job with the funds they do have, or else we would not be where we are today. The challenge, and its a huge one is to make the club sustainable at this level. Like it or loath it, with the likes of big money spenders its one that is going to get harder. |
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Post by guildrover on Oct 20, 2018 9:19:09 GMT
Pinewalker clearly can't read a profit and loss account and as Delboy said reading it in isolation and not seeing the balance sheet doesn't give you the full picture. However it is clear from looking at the profit we made the year before and then where money has been spent last year why it showed half a million pound deficit and that is because as others have said it has been spent on the ground. You can see those improvements with your own eyes and in the planning application submitted for the pavilion.
IMO that is the correct investment to make rather than spend it on wages.
Anyone who has been looking over the club's accounts for as long as I have will realise how far we have come as a club to have an almost £1million turnover and that season ticket sales increased again.
Obviously outgoings like wages and travel/accommodation have gone up due to playing in a National League but had we not increased the turnover there is no way we could play at this level now days.
Yes we managed it in the 80s but it is a completely different league to what it was back then and interestingly enough if you go back far enough with the accounts you'll see we used to make a little profit each year when we had our own lottery and then from 94 onwards it turned into a little loss almost every year. That really hurt the club from 2000 until Dos arrived IMO.
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Post by timbo on Oct 20, 2018 19:11:39 GMT
As said, time for some of the youngsters to start banging in some goals now. That said, as soon as they do the scouts will be sniffing round in profusion. Class top strikers are very rare and valuable commodity nowadays. Good luck in the future Ross and thanks for taking some hard knocks in the course of your duty for the Club. Which youngsters? |
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Post by Amber Aleman on Oct 20, 2018 19:44:28 GMT
Aaron Drinan perhaps. Who scored today. That said, we currently have just two recognised strikers on our books and they've managed a total of two goals between them this season. I think Dos will want to get another one in. Ross wasn't a prolific scorer, but he has bags of experience and that's invaluable. (It was noticeable how much more pressure we put on the home defence in Dublin once he'd taken the field as a substitute.) He won't be easy to replace, but we need someone like him. |
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Post by timbo on Oct 27, 2018 13:28:37 GMT
Aaron Drinan perhaps. Who scored today. That said, we currently have just two recognised strikers on our books and they've managed a total of two goals between them this season. I think Dos will want to get another one in. Ross wasn't a prolific scorer, but he has bags of experience and that's invaluable. (It was noticeable how much more pressure we put on the home defence in Dublin once he'd taken the field as a substitute.) He won't be easy to replace, but we need someone like him. I hear you, although I was alluding to the point that Dos, and indeed much of non league football, seem to prefer experienced players over young talent and we really don't have many youngsters around the 1st team squad he could select, albeit a couple more than usual at the moment |
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Post by amberambler on Oct 27, 2018 18:34:24 GMT
And Ross has scored for Billericay
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