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Post by Andy K on Dec 14, 2010 22:20:18 GMT
Thought i'd start a new thread seeing that "Match" and "Tonight" don't really explain what the content of the thread is all about.
The headline is that we got beaten by on the night a better team in a league higher than us.
But theres obviously more of a story than that. Although we do often have a pop at refs, tonights one actually turned the game. Literally just after we'd gone 1-0 down with the game Slabber did one of the worst two footed challenges I've seen all season. I didn't actually see who it was on as I was so incensed. The result - a YELLOW. It was a cynical foul which in my mind is a straight red. Then the ref did a number of odd bookings all over the shop. At that point it could have been more of a match, but the ref failing to do his job, or have the balls to do it, led to the drubbing we got. I'm not saying at all that Eastleigh didn't deserve their win - they did, and actually found myself applauding their 4th goal, which was a class hit, but its such a shame that refs ruin particularly good fixtures between teams by incompetence. In ANY other job that level of incompetence could lead to a sacking, but yet this continues. If the ref was unsighted or was at a strange position it could be explained but this was from the kick off! There is NO EXCUSE for this. It was obvious who was going to score their 2nd goal. The man who by all rights should have been sent off.
Rant over, but today overall we didn't really threaten. As Amber Aleman said, and I agree with, this squad may have what it takes to get promoted (something I still think we will do) but it may struggle and the next level up.
We need to brush ourselves down from this, take heart in the fact that the first game we really did give them a run for their money, and get back to business. Its quite possible that Saturdays match may not survive the weather, so our next game is Bobbins.
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Post by Del on Dec 14, 2010 22:37:03 GMT
On the bright side Lowestoft dropped two points at canvey and billlericay lost!
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Post by Del on Dec 14, 2010 22:38:18 GMT
Back to the match and i was amazed we didn't get a penalty when the score was 0-0.Ref seemed to play the advantage!!
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Post by os on Dec 14, 2010 23:05:31 GMT
Eastleigh can consider themselves very lucky to have gone through over the 2 matches. The referee was not only bad but an insult to the game. The first goal came from a free kick given for nothing, there were 2 cynical fouls on the edge of their box which received no cautions, we then look to have won a penalty yet play went on? Slabber's 2 footed lunge was not only disgraceful but career threatening, he only gets a yellow and goes onto score the second and most crucial goal of the tie. For all his bravado as he left the field I hope he reflects on what damage he could have done a fellow player. Its difficult to analyse the game because quite simply I think the result was entirely down to the referee, his decisions influenced the key moments of the game I don't think Eastleigh should spend much time on extracting any credit from their performance tonight.
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Post by Amber Aleman on Dec 14, 2010 23:28:10 GMT
As Andy K has mentioned, I think we treat tonight's match as a lesson for the future. Whatever the shortcomings of the ref, we were well beaten by a side better than us in pretty much every department.
I thought we competed well until Eastleigh took the lead, but after that there was only one team in it. We barely threatened again until the last ten minutes when the game was lost. Their no.3 (Bottomley) was particularly impressive and kept BWG in his pocket for most of the game.
We were missing Simon Downer, with Andy Forbes initially deputising in defence, and maybe with our first choice back line we wouldn't have conceded as many. There was an element of bad luck about at least two of the goals. The first followed what looked a harsh free kick against Dundas - we failed to clear the ball, eventually putting it out via the crossbar, and from the corner one of their tower-block defenders nodded in. The second came after Bradley slipped and lost the ball to Taggart who surged into our half and set up Slabber. The third was scored just after Karl Murray had come on, with Forbes pushed up front and our reorganised defence perhaps still settling. The fourth was indeed a quality finish from Taggart.
OK, enough of the post-mortem, let's get back to concentrating on the league.
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Post by markn on Dec 14, 2010 23:39:35 GMT
I hate blaming ref's as a four goal defeat will point to other shortcomings, but the decision not to send off Slabber for the assault on our player could have changed the whole game and was a very obvious red card.
I agree with Andy though that the strike for the fourth goal was pure quality.
Onwards and upwards I say
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Post by os on Dec 14, 2010 23:46:06 GMT
we were well beaten by a side better than us in pretty much every department. I don't agree with that statement, I think it does our squad a disservice. What Eastleigh did well was to make the most of the situation they were handed, we had no choice but to push forward once we were one down.
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Post by Gareth on Dec 14, 2010 23:57:24 GMT
First 10-15 minutes were ours.
Kes was booked for an imaginary foul.
Eastleigh bossed the rest of the half, took the lead, probably deservedly, albeit from a corner that came from an imaginary free-kick given against Dundo by "referee" Hillier.
Slabber committed probably the worst challenge, knee-high, studs-up, I've seen all season, straight from the resulting kick-off. Hillier gave yellow card.
Hillier ignored linesman's offside flag and gave Eastleigh free-kick, then booked Kennedy who had pointed out said linesman's flag.
Half-time.
Slabber, who had earlier commited probably the worst challenge, knee-high, studs-up I've seen all season straight from the kick-off after their first goal, broke free after a BWG slip and put visitors 2-0 up.
Within seconds of our change-of-formation, own goal to put Eastleigh 3-0 up.
Taggart scored a storming 4th.
Not denying that the visitors were the better side tonight, but Hillier's decision not to send Jamie Slabber off for an awful challenge changed the game. 1-0 down against 10 men would have seen a different second half.
Hillier - if you are being fast-tracked to the Football Leauge, then give up now and concentrate on something that you might be good at and you might even get respect for. Because quite honestly, I've got more time for the HMRC than I do complete and utter talentless idiots like you.
By the way....Eastleigh (apologies to Dos)......16 supporters? Jesus christ!!! Why keep bothering? And the club are subsidising the supporters' travel?!!!
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Post by sdavison on Dec 15, 2010 0:14:55 GMT
The ref awful there 4th goal brilliant just about sums up the whole game!
Not overly fussed about not going through means we can now concentrate on the league and hopefully get promoted! The money would have been nice but from what i saw tonight were not a million miles away...
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Post by efcspitfire on Dec 15, 2010 0:25:41 GMT
hope to see you play in the blue sq south next year!
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Post by exiledinandover on Dec 15, 2010 6:33:49 GMT
I just hope this does't affect the teams confidence as i've seen it happen to other teams.
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Post by garethl on Dec 15, 2010 8:11:36 GMT
In all honesty they put in an excellent away performance and easily deserved it. We created next to nothing and they picked us off at ease. Nice to see a side with 2 excellent wide players, an area we are definitely short in.
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Post by frakey on Dec 15, 2010 8:20:21 GMT
Can't add much to the above. Well beaten by the better side on the night. They were totally different to Saturday. Didn't mess about playing the ball around their back line and just generally bossed the game after the first 20 mins.
The first 20 mins was probably where the ref was at his best too. Once he had made an awful decision to give a free-kick and then book Kes for what I assume was dissent in the process, his performance fell away rapidly.
Much has been said about Slabber's challenge on Tom Davis and the resultant yellow cards we got we a joke in comparison although any other time, Ebs foul was a yellow. There was one point where BWG skipped past his opponent was caught and went down and he played on. He gave fouls for minimal contact and let other stronger challenges go. It seemed to me that he favoured the fact that Eastleigh were bigger and stronger than U's so therefore were less likely to foul than U's players.
He was basically too young and inexperienced for the occasion (well, that's the way he came across). Another, no doubt, being fast-tracked by the FA. No doubt, he will think he had a good game & that is the real worry. I detect a certain arrogance in these young officials that is really not good for the game.
The FA's respect campaign, to me, has always been window dressing. If I'm rubbish on a Sunday, I expect players to let it be known. Respect goes both ways I'm afraid and it is about time the FA realised that. If a guy is crap at U's level, he should expect the spectators to let him know too. Mr Hillier certainly was informed yesterday evening. Not because we were well beaten but because he was just awful.
Two players will now miss the T&M match (if it gets played).
Oh and my sources tell me we have this official again, quite soon. Oh joy!
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Post by taz on Dec 15, 2010 10:13:32 GMT
First off, can't argue with the fact we lost. Bar the first 15, they were far better than us. Stronger, quicker and fitter. And having Jordan back in the centre of defence made a huge difference. The no5 on saturday was pony and was lucky to stay on, with him in place they were a far more effective outfit.
Having said that though, 4-0 flattered 'em a bit.
The ref definitely didn't help our cause. They're a fecking huge side, yet it seemed every time we tried to compete with them, we were penalised. The free kick against Dundo in the lead up to the first goal was a bloody joke. As was Kes' yellow card.
And how Slabber stayed on the park after that challenge I really don't know. Big decision and he bottled it.
Nice to see he's one of this new breed of ref that seems to penalise you for simply trying to win a header against some 9ft tall freak, yet ignores when you're pulled back\tripped when trying to run with the ball.
Little disappointed, mainly by the scoreline. 3 of the goals were pretty avoidable, with one belter to round it off. But still, we've made a couple of quid to boost the coffers and can now get back to concentrating on the league.
Onwards & upwards.
PS. Nice to see their fans making loads of noise.....when they were 3-0 up. Where you on saturday?
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Post by tonyd on Dec 15, 2010 11:06:31 GMT
I don't think that we can blame the ref. He was quite the most bafflingly bad I have seen all season, but Eastleigh were equally bemused, but reacted more professionally and didn't pick up two bookings for arguing. I didn't see the Slabber challenge as a red card, a yellow only looked inadequate in the context of the soft cards the ref had been handing out. As to the game, well, I'm like a stuck record on this. I don't think you can play two strikers and two wide attacking midfielders against any decent side in our league, nevermind a team from a higher league who appeared to have been raised on growth hormones. However, I can't see the management changing their minds on this. The other learning points have already been alluded to. 1. Don't fall over the ball deep in your own half. 2. Don't take throws to people who have got their back to you 3. Don't stand in the penalty area with your arm up appealing for offside - deal with the ball first! Now we can concentrate on the league whilst recruiting a team of giants for next season.
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