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Post by Andy K on Nov 22, 2019 14:23:04 GMT
So going into the game we're still bottom of the form table but Bromley are only 9th and have not won in the league in 4 (two draws and a defeat since their last win). Their away form too isn't great with 1 win in 6 (at Barnet).
As we saw last weekend, form could mean nothing on the day, plus Bromley are playing their first game since being dumped out of the FA Cup (ironically Torquay's first game after being dumped out of the cup by Dan Wishart and Maidstone was last week against us) in a hard fought replay on Tues night.
A win could take us out of the relegation zone if any of Fylde, Chesterfield and Aldershot lose to Dagenham, Notts County and Harrogate respectively (who are also by sheer coincidence our next 3 league opponents). If all 3 lose and we win, we can get as high as 18th. Defeat and positive results for Wrexham, Chorley and Ebbsfleet (who play Yeovil, Torquay and Stockport) will leave us bottom of this league for the first time since 2000.
All to play for!
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Post by halftimet on Nov 22, 2019 14:27:22 GMT
Having watched the game on Tuesday one thing we will need is our tallest possible side to combat the long throw threat. No way back for Jamie tomorrow.
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Post by halftimet on Nov 23, 2019 18:43:13 GMT
Thought we played well today, a lot of endeavour. We need a little bit of liuck in front of goal. If we had got it back to 1-1 it would have been a different game or if Jamie had not made the mistake.
We do lack the cutting edge in front of goal. Think Bromley had three chances (if you include the free kick as one) and scored two. That is how it goes at different ends of the table.
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Post by baboonfish on Nov 23, 2019 19:02:34 GMT
We were so damn unlucky today, by far the better side, all the big decisions went their way, although bromley just defended the key moments better, throwing bodies on the line while we just stood and watched for the first goal. The second..... What can you say? JC just hasn't looked himself this season. Second time he's gifted a goal and he doesn't look fit.
Have seen us play worse and win many many times, it just isn't going our way and it just might not be our season. We certainly don't look like a bottom 4 side.
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Post by garethl on Nov 23, 2019 20:14:29 GMT
And still haven’t seen us win this season. Not sure when I last saw a win, last season’s games don’t load on my phone on the main website!
Not much happened. We lost. Their keeper made I think 1 save from an Eastmond header. Can’t think of another. Ours made none (I think) if we discount the ones that were part of their first goal.
Goes without saying we need to work out how to score goals or we are down. Blanks in 7 out of 9 league matches now!
Thought the ref was poor, clueless on refereeing the aerial clashes.
Dave is a bright spark down the right.
We weren’t bad but fine margins at this level and we’re on the wrong side of them regularly.
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Post by Amber Aleman on Nov 23, 2019 20:28:03 GMT
The elation today was in the away end at GGL, and with good reason. Bromley - a club with which we might reasonably be compared - are second in the table, have made a decent wedge from the FA Cup this season, and came away with a 2-0 win. The contrast with our situation could 't be much starker.
This game was something of a microcosm of our season so far. We started brightly, Craig Eastmond's early header forcing a smart save from visiting keeper Huddart, then having a good shout for a penalty waved away as Louis John was pushed over in the box. But just before the quarter-hour, and not for the first time this season, we conceded a needless free kick just outside the area. Tzanev saved the shot and first follow-up but was beaten by the second.
Spool forward to the 71st minute and we won a free kick in a similar position. Harry's shot whizzed just wide. Nine minutes later and we carelessly gave the ball away in midfield, Michael Cheek ambling through a gaping hole in our defence to score their second.
Once again we played most of the game with a lone striker (Bugiel) who had barely a sniff of goal.
We're now in 22nd place, off the bottom only on goal difference, and still with just a single home league victory since March. Perhaps a few more people will now understand why I wasn't getting carried away by last weekend's win at Torquay.
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Post by garethl on Nov 23, 2019 20:33:06 GMT
Don’t they have huge wads of cash being invested in them?
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Post by mick on Nov 23, 2019 21:46:00 GMT
Have to say from a Bromley perspective, you did not play like a struggling team. Thought you played some decent football, but just lacked the cutting edge up top. From other teams i've seen this season, i think you will push on and finish safely around mid table. Your right winger is the quickest plyer i've seen all season and looked dangerous throughout.
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Post by markf on Nov 23, 2019 22:04:39 GMT
No one was carried away because we won last week. Elation of varying degrees arrives in the moment of victory so yes, the Bromley fans will have been unless they're all like you. That elation didn't/doesn't betray a lack of understanding of our current predicament. If you don't understand that I will repeat my suggestion you find another sport or team to watch.
As for comparing them to us they have had an injection of cash from local businessmen. It has enabled them to improve their ground (for home fans anyway) and strengthen on the pitch. The only comparison is they have a 3g pitch but that may have to change the surface next season.
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Post by pinewalker on Nov 23, 2019 22:11:16 GMT
Have to say from a Bromley perspective, you did not play like a struggling team. Thought you played some decent football, but just lacked the cutting edge up top. From other teams i've seen this season, i think you will push on and finish safely around mid table. Your right winger is the quickest plyer i've seen all season and looked dangerous throughout. True, we did not play like a struggling team - and Bromley did not play like the league leaders. However, it is a results-based business which explains both teams' positions in the table. Coming into the game Sutton had conceded one fewer league goal than Bromley. Our attack though is only half as effective. As the table suggested - Bromley would accept their chances, Sutton would not. So it proved. Unfortunately I do not see that changing under the present U's management who think it is due to bad luck. You may have noticed David speeding past your defence in the second half when he was playing on the stand side, but in common with Sutton wingers for more than a season, he does not see much of the ball when playing on the Rec side. |
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Post by Del on Nov 23, 2019 22:40:28 GMT
We were unlucky not to have taken at least a point from this game. The difference between the teams was a free kick which they converted at the third attempt and of course an error by the skipper near the end.
Maybe one of our best performances at home this season against a team joint top of the league.
Yes we slipped a place in the league but i'm not to dispirited losing this time.No disgrace against the present Bromley team.
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Post by os on Nov 23, 2019 23:07:35 GMT
Like many I have watched football a long time, your senses tend to send your brain messages. Even before we get to the football on the pitch, the club feels flat, the fans seem flat, no atmosphere for a Derby against Bromley with any noise coming from the away side. At the moment everything about our club has relegation stamped all over it, we have no club leaders.
You need ability, a touch of luck which we didn't get today, but above all you need belief, I didn't feel we had that from going 1 down and the Bromley 2nd looked inevitable despite them being probably the worst Bromley side I have seen in years (Or maybe they didn't need to get out of 2nd gear?). On the pitch we failed to test the Bromley keeper all afternoon, the away defence was comfortable against our disjointed and individualistic attack.At no time did our forward play show any cohesion, with the ball just slung or hit into the box more in hope then to another U's player.
Yes JC got caught in possession but why was that? I guess no one to pass too. On the 1st goal 3 opportunities in a row to put the ball in the net other than 2 fine saves no U's player gets any touch.
Today was one of the poorest responses I have seen from a U's side after going 1-0 down and that sense of inevitability appears to stretch throughout the club. I don't mind getting relegated if 110% effort goes in from top to bottom, but it feels more like 50-60%. We still have time to turn it around, but waiting for it to happen and blaming our luck will only see us relegated.
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Post by tonyd on Nov 23, 2019 23:53:10 GMT
You were watching a different game to me. After going a goal down, we camped in their half for the second 45. Yes we gave away a couple of chances on the break, but how you can say this did not represent a response baffles me. As for the feeling of relegation around the club, you’ve been preaching this ever since Dos went. What about having a bit of positivity? Most people I’ve spoken to seemed to think we gave a good performance and are not far off turning it round.
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Post by halftimet on Nov 24, 2019 8:43:30 GMT
All we needed at 1-0 down was a scrappy deflected goal and we would have taken 4 points from the last two games and gone to Dagenham full of confidence.
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Post by ganderpoke on Nov 24, 2019 9:29:27 GMT
Didn't help yesterday that Kyle had an off day leaving Ajiboye as our only attacking threat. It was easy for Bromley to negate that when they knew there was little danger from elsewhere. Mind you, when he did get a cross in, nobody was on the end of it.
We had lots of possession and commitment which is presumably why Mick from Bromley gave us the old "too good to go down" waffle but as said elsewhere our play in the final third lacks any cutting edge so we struggle to score.
Like many sides at GGL this season, Bromley didn't appear to offer much but I think we all know that the way to play against us here is to defend in numbers and do damage on the break. Maybe we should try playing that way ourselves for a change as we can't break down a massed defence.
Still don't understand the tactic of pinging high balls to Omar expecting him to create something as a lone striker. We look better when we keep it on the floor.
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