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Post by Andy K on Jun 11, 2020 22:00:21 GMT
This needs 17 votes to pass. I can't many clubs in our league voting against it. Certainly not 7. It will pass.
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Post by Del on Jun 12, 2020 17:32:37 GMT
Surprise,surprise,York City have tabled an amendment to have 2 up from North & South.
Not sure i would want us to play Havant next season !
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Post by Andy K on Jun 12, 2020 19:29:37 GMT
Surprise,surprise,York City have tabled an amendment to have 2 up from North & South. Not sure i would want us to play Havant next season ! Which was rejected this afternoon but... |
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Post by garethl on Jun 13, 2020 7:41:31 GMT
In my opinion they should have respected 2 up from North and South and in the absence of play offs promoted the top 2.
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Post by jr on Jun 13, 2020 10:00:23 GMT
Various MP's involved now. The NL have gone back to the Government to ask whether NLS & NLN are "elite" professional sport. Given that players are furloughed in these leagues you would perhaps think they were. Therefore if the play offs do go ahead it could be curtains for Fylde and Ebbsfleet. That would be a shame, not. If York do go up it will be a new ground for all of us (if away fans are allowed!)
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Post by Andy K on Jun 15, 2020 14:01:46 GMT
For those not following, the voting and therefore the announcement has been delayed. The crux of the matter seems to be the interpretation of the Government definition of what "Elite sport" is. It seems like there is a blame game going on between the Government, the FA and the National League. Both the latter said the government advised them that step 2 didn't apply as it was part time football, but step one did ( as a significant number of players are full time). The government (DCMS in particular) have said that no specific advice had been given and it was up to the National League to decide.
Avoiding any finger pointing as invariably we'll all blame the parties we want to blame and we won't actually know what was/wasn't said, it means that step 2 play offs are now back on the table for the vote, with the caveat that the expense for all the tests, preparation etc is covered by the clubs. That could of course mean that Fylde and Ebbsfleet could well be relegated even though last Thursday it was looking like they were going to be safe.
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Post by jr on Jun 16, 2020 7:34:22 GMT
The clubs have until 5pm this Wednesday so shortly after the deadline one would hope they will announce if the play offs will happen or not. In the South all 6 teams have indicated that they will participate in the play offs. I'm not sure about the North.
Hopefully the play offs can go ahead.
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Post by Del on Jun 16, 2020 7:51:00 GMT
The clubs have until 5pm this Wednesday so shortly after the deadline one would hope they will announce if the play offs will happen or not. In the South all 6 teams have indicated that they will participate in the play offs. I'm not sure about the North. Hopefully the play offs can go ahead. I hope they don't and that only 1 team gets relegated as the other 3 have not had the chance to save themselves. Teams like Ebbsfleet & Fylde will feel very hard done by. |
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Post by jr on Jun 16, 2020 8:53:50 GMT
The clubs have until 5pm this Wednesday so shortly after the deadline one would hope they will announce if the play offs will happen or not. In the South all 6 teams have indicated that they will participate in the play offs. I'm not sure about the North. Hopefully the play offs can go ahead. I hope they don't and that only 1 team gets relegated as the other 3 have not had the chance to save themselves. Teams like Ebbsfleet & Fylde will feel very hard done by. I disagree. They had 38 games to save themselves, just as we did. Personally I think it's an absolute farce if they relegate 1 team and feel Chorley would be hard done by. If Fylde and Ebbsfleet do get relegated then they will have to pay back £45k of the £58k they've been advanced. I wonder if this has a bearing on the decision |
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Post by Andy K on Jun 16, 2020 10:05:18 GMT
I hope they don't and that only 1 team gets relegated as the other 3 have not had the chance to save themselves. Teams like Ebbsfleet & Fylde will feel very hard done by. I disagree. They had 38 games to save themselves, just as we did. Personally I think it's an absolute farce if they relegate 1 team and feel Chorley would be hard done by. If Fylde and Ebbsfleet do get relegated then they will have to pay back £45k of the £58k they've been advanced. I wonder if this has a bearing on the decision I agree with you. I understand reprieves in normal seasons, but I never like them. Weston should have been relegated 3 times over but lived a charmed life in the South due to the misfortune of other clubs rather than their own success. There is nothing to say that either Ebbsfleet or Fylde would have saved themselves. I still don't feel especially comfortable that Maidenhead are going to be safe in this scenario as their failure on the pitch has been rewarded. I really hope the plays offs in step 2 are going to be viable because that really is the fairest way to sort out the season ready for a new campaign. |
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Post by garethl on Jun 16, 2020 19:21:03 GMT
Maidenhead have certainly lucked out in a major way. Think they had lost their last 5 and were probably heading for a 2nd from bottom finish!
The football authorities were damned whatever decisions they took on the promotion/relegation issues. Legal challenge is inevitable.
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Post by Andy K on Jun 16, 2020 20:58:19 GMT
Maidenhead have certainly lucked out in a major way. Think they had lost their last 5 and were probably heading for a 2nd from bottom finish! The football authorities were damned whatever decisions they took on the promotion/relegation issues. Legal challenge is inevitable. I don't think it will be. If the plays off take place there is nothing to challenge. Clubs have already voted and agreed to end the season and if a majority vote for unweighted ppg there isn't a legal leg to stand on. South Shields have already tried and failed on possibly more solid legal grounds. |
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Post by Andy K on Jun 17, 2020 12:38:43 GMT
Clubs have until 5pm tonight to vote. It's likely the resolution will pass, meaning the intention is that play offs at step 2 will take place and Ebbsfleet and Fylde will be relegated along with Chorley. Clubs in those step 2 play offs have the right to decline to take part and will not receive a sanction if they choose not to. With figures of £40,000 being touted just to take part in the play offs (players will need to be contracted for at least 3 weeks - government rules is that players will need to be officially training for 2 weeks prior to games taking place), some clubs may feel that outlay is too much for the "chance" of promotion.
Once passed it needs to go to the 102 member FA Council for ratification.
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Post by jr on Jun 17, 2020 13:26:51 GMT
Clubs have until 5pm tonight to vote. It's likely the resolution will pass, meaning the intention is that play offs at step 2 will take place and Ebbsfleet and Fylde will be relegated along with Chorley. Clubs in those step 2 play offs have the right to decline to take part and will not receive a sanction if they choose not to. With figures of £40,000 being touted just to take part in the play offs (players will need to be contracted for at least 3 weeks - government rules is that players will need to be officially training for 2 weeks prior to games taking place), some clubs may feel that outlay is too much for the "chance" of promotion. Once passed it needs to go to the 102 member FA Council for ratification. Dorking v Havant in the NLS final and Alfie Rutherford scores the winner!! |
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Post by Andy K on Jun 17, 2020 14:32:22 GMT
Clubs have until 5pm tonight to vote. It's likely the resolution will pass, meaning the intention is that play offs at step 2 will take place and Ebbsfleet and Fylde will be relegated along with Chorley. Clubs in those step 2 play offs have the right to decline to take part and will not receive a sanction if they choose not to. With figures of £40,000 being touted just to take part in the play offs (players will need to be contracted for at least 3 weeks - government rules is that players will need to be officially training for 2 weeks prior to games taking place), some clubs may feel that outlay is too much for the "chance" of promotion. Once passed it needs to go to the 102 member FA Council for ratification. Dorking v Havant in the NLS final and Alfie Rutherford scores the winner!! You're optimistic! To get that, Dos would have to win a play off game  |
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