EFL L1 and L2 end season

[Del]

How many of those clubs have a spare £40000 to splash out with no guaranteed success ?
Also the proposal may go through but the amendment rejected. Its going to be interesting that's for sure.
I'm glad we are not involved but at one stage it looked decidedly dodgy.

[Andy K]

Jun 17, 2020 14:58:06 GMT Del said:

How many of those clubs have a spare £40000 to splash out with no guaranteed success ?
Also the proposal may go through but the amendment rejected. Its going to be interesting that's for sure.
I'm glad we are not involved but at one stage it looked decidedly dodgy.

At least now, after what seems like a constant to and fro between the league and the clubs, we're now in the best situation we can be. Clubs should be able to take part but if they feel it's too much of a financial risk for them (or other risks) they won't be obliged to do so.

From what I can see, there isn't an amendment to be rejected. The resolution was changed accordingly. The initial amendment I believe presented by York City was that if play offs didn't take place, then 2nd place would be promoted automatically, which the league rejected. They are voting on this resolution

League positions decided on unweighted PPG
Champions of each league promoted
Clubs promoted via play offs if they can compete under government guidance)
National league relegation to make sure that 24 clubs remain in the national league.


The final decision on play offs will be made if the resolution passes. From what I've seen no club has said they will vote against the resolution. Weymouth, Havant, Notts County, Halifax, Hereford, Boston have all declared voting in favour of the resolution (in fact Halifax have come out and said they are ready to start training from Monday).

I can't see how this resolution won't pass.

[garethl]

Jun 16, 2020 20:58:19 GMT Andy K said:

Jun 16, 2020 19:21:03 GMT garethl said:

Maidenhead have certainly lucked out in a major way. Think they had lost their last 5 and were probably heading for a 2nd from bottom finish!

The football authorities were damned whatever decisions they took on the promotion/relegation issues. Legal challenge is inevitable.

I don't think it will be. If the plays off take place there is nothing to challenge. Clubs have already voted and agreed to end the season and if a majority vote for unweighted ppg there isn't a legal leg to stand on. South Shields have already tried and failed on possibly more solid legal grounds.

I’d say it’s the other end of the table we will see challenge. Haven’t Tranmere already started action? I wouldn’t be surprised to see Ebbsfleet and Fylde doing something given the resources at their disposal.

[garethl]

Jun 17, 2020 15:56:17 GMT Andy K said:

Jun 17, 2020 14:58:06 GMT Del said:

How many of those clubs have a spare £40000 to splash out with no guaranteed success ?
Also the proposal may go through but the amendment rejected. Its going to be interesting that's for sure.
I'm glad we are not involved but at one stage it looked decidedly dodgy.

At least now, after what seems like a constant to and fro between the league and the clubs, we're now in the best situation we can be. Clubs should be able to take part but if they feel it's too much of a financial risk for them (or other risks) they won't be obliged to do so.

From what I can see, there isn't an amendment to be rejected. The resolution was changed accordingly. The initial amendment I believe presented by York City was that if play offs didn't take place, then 2nd place would be promoted automatically, which the league rejected. They are voting on this resolution

League positions decided on unweighted PPG
Champions of each league promoted
Clubs promoted via play offs if they can compete under government guidance)
National league relegation to make sure that 24 clubs remain in the national league.


The final decision on play offs will be made if the resolution passes. From what I've seen no club has said they will vote against the resolution. Weymouth, Havant, Notts County, Halifax, Hereford, Boston have all declared voting in favour of the resolution (in fact Halifax have come out and said they are ready to start training from Monday).

I can't see how this resolution won't pass.

It will be interesting to see how the costings work out. I think £40k a club is ridiculous and potentially having clubs without the necessary resources at their disposal makes a mockery of the play offs. Even if all qualifying clubs take part chucking that sort of cash down the drain in this current climate makes no sense. It would have simpler to promote the top 2 in each division and focus on when next season can start (with fans).

[Andy K]

I think any legal challenge won't get far at all. The bottom line is they will occupy a relegation spot (like Tranmere) so therefore should expect relegation. The issue will only be how the league ended. Now that the clubs have voted to end the season on PPG, they won't stand a chance however much money they throw at it.

As for spending £40k to take part in the play off. Well that's each clubs decision. They won't be sanctioned for not taking part, and I think it makes far less of a mockery of the playoffs than just promoting the top 2.

But it's now been confirmed that we say goodbye to Barrow and welcome Wealdstone and Kings Lynn for next season.

[Andy K]

www.thenationalleague.org.uk/national-league-statement-ordinary-resolution-supp-62361

[jr]

Ooh and Ebbsfleet and Fylde will have to pay back £45k (if they received the £58k like the teams above them)

[garethl]

Jun 17, 2020 18:07:48 GMT Andy K said:

I think any legal challenge won't get far at all. The bottom line is they will occupy a relegation spot (like Tranmere) so therefore should expect relegation. The issue will only be how the league ended. Now that the clubs have voted to end the season on PPG, they won't stand a chance however much money they throw at it.

As for spending £40k to take part in the play off. Well that's each clubs decision. They won't be sanctioned for not taking part, and I think it makes far less of a mockery of the playoffs than just promoting the top 2.

But it's now been confirmed that we say goodbye to Barrow and welcome Wealdstone and Kings Lynn for next season.

On relegation perhaps but I’m no legal expert and it won’t stop clubs trying. You would think there is an argument based on an incomplete season even if you think it’s a tenuous one.

I’ll agree to disagree re. 2nd place versus play offs going ahead. Having clubs at our level paying that sort of cash and likely without any spectators in my mind is utter madness. Add on top the potential for clubs to drop out of competing in the play offs and the potential contract farce. At this point we don’t even know if, how or when next season will be plausible.