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Post by garethl on Aug 29, 2021 8:31:32 GMT
Think we’re picking holes that simply aren’t there. Very little has changed. We’re still very hard to beat, still got a great set of players. Could easily be 4 points better off. Yes, am sure some marginal stuff to continue to work on but overall we should remain very positive and totally back this squad of players.
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Post by Del on Aug 29, 2021 9:28:56 GMT
For me it was Piergianni who was the big difference today. He was superb in defence for Oldham reading the back line so well before he bounded forward for the equaliser.
I believe the squad is good enough for a mid table finish but it would be good if we can get Tanto for another season up front.
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Post by Amber Aleman on Aug 29, 2021 10:00:03 GMT
For me it was Piergianni who was the big difference today. He was superb in defence for Oldham reading the back line so well before he bounded forward for the equaliser. I agree that Piergianni was a handful, and he seems to be a bogey player for us having scored (as a defender) each time he's faced us. Strangely, after the game I bumped into an Oldham fan who lives in south London but couldn't get to yesterday's match. I mentioned Piergianni. His immediate response was 'donkey'! |
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Post by banjo on Aug 29, 2021 10:09:40 GMT
Think we will be ok, but must get a win soon which could be Tuesday against palaces 21.s
The reason I say that is we are not being out played by any team and creat chances. Its s very much like when Matt started in the conference and we were calling for his head but he turned it around, so I think get Tanto in firing we should be ok. We were never going too set the league alight in our thirst season, so let’s get behind this great club and Matt has proved he can turn it around.⚽️
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Post by trev on Aug 29, 2021 10:33:44 GMT
Think we will be ok, but must get a win soon which could be Tuesday against place 23’s. The reason I say that is we are not being out played by any team and creat chances. Its s very much like when Matt started in the conference and we were calling for his head but he turned it around, so I think get Tantoe in firing we should be ok. We were never going too set the league alight in our thirst season, so let’s get behind this great club and Matt has proved he can turn it around.⚽️ Change "we" to "some" and I'd agree with you 100%. We have been there or thereabouts in every game I've seen us play so far. Our ability to play competitive football at this level is not in question and with some tweaking I think we will be okay. There is nothing fundamentally wrong with the way we are playing at the moment and with Matt's unwavering attention to detail he will make the necessary changes and take things up a notch. It's all about small margins at the moment, and those opportunities not taken. We are certainly creating enough of them! |
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Post by pinewalker on Aug 29, 2021 18:24:34 GMT
Referee today was awful btw...thought he looked really aggressive with the way he dealt with players, got loads wrong and generally added nothing to the game. No surprise in the fact this was the referee who was involved with the incident at Ipswich. I disagree with this assessment, and so I believe did the assessors. I sit right in front of the two referee's assessors, I make a point of talking to them every week but switch to listening during play. Typically they comment on errors and today there was little comment between the pair. Once instance: the Oldham keeper picked up a ball knocked back to him with enough time and care to be considered a back-pass. That apart there were no errors in law. The ref had to deal with a few instances of poor behaviour: teams escalating the pushing and shoving in a futile attempt to prevent the guilty being carded; and the Manure Press = surrounding the referee to demand a sanction for opponents developed by you know who. I thought yesterday's ref kept the lid on tempers well. League two is still below the level where the assessors can listen to the officials intercom, so there was one baffling case where a linesman alerted the ref to an incident he hadn't seen and the assessors could only make a note to discuss it afterwards. |
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Post by terrier on Aug 29, 2021 18:38:46 GMT
Referee today was awful btw...thought he looked really aggressive with the way he dealt with players, got loads wrong and generally added nothing to the game. No surprise in the fact this was the referee who was involved with the incident at Ipswich. Typically they comment on errors and today there was little comment between the pair. Once instance: the Oldham keeper picked up a ball knocked back to him with enough time and care to be considered a back-pass. That apart there were no errors in law. I remember this incident well. The back pass was not deliberate; Oldham’s goalkeeper initially controlled the back pass with his foot and signalled to the referee as a check (he had the time to do so) and the referee indicated to him that he was free to pick the ball up as it wasn’t from a deliberate back pass. Good refereeing, and good goalkeeping. |
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Post by markf on Aug 29, 2021 19:26:46 GMT
Referee today was awful btw...thought he looked really aggressive with the way he dealt with players, got loads wrong and generally added nothing to the game. No surprise in the fact this was the referee who was involved with the incident at Ipswich. I disagree with this assessment, and so I believe did the assessors. I sit right in front of the two referee's assessors, I make a point of talking to them every week but switch to listening during play. Typically they comment on errors and today there was little comment between the pair. Once instance: the Oldham keeper picked up a ball knocked back to him with enough time and care to be considered a back-pass. That apart there were no errors in law. The ref had to deal with a few instances of poor behaviour: teams escalating the pushing and shoving in a futile attempt to prevent the guilty being carded; and the Manure Press = surrounding the referee to demand a sanction for opponents developed by you know who. I thought yesterday's ref kept the lid on tempers well. League two is still below the level where the assessors can listen to the officials intercom, so there was one baffling case where a linesman alerted the ref to an incident he hadn't seen and the assessors could only make a note to discuss it afterwards. You do realise that the assessors (now known as observers) are all ex-referee's? I recognise a fair few of them on their arrival as they came up through the Isthmian and not all were that much cop themselves. From my experience of ref's associations etc, they all tend to look after their own (the main reason why I never joined a local society when I was a Sunday morning ref - it was all back slapping). You only have to look at Chris Foy in the MoS, I can't recall him ever disagreeing with a ref's decision from the Saturday games. Clattenburg does though and he was one of our recent best. He was bloody awful yesterday and if that performance was par for him, is it any wonder he got into a row with an Ipswich player last season? He actually pulled their no 29 away by grabbing his shirt and the player was not best pleased. Their 29 got away with murder. He did Louis very early on, jumping at the man not the ball and got away with it. Was involved in another fracas with LJ not long after and his challenge late in the second half was bloody terrible. Sod's law he scored the winner. The ref missed so much else too. Ben Goodliffe was hauled to the floor in both halves the second saw them break away to net the winner and a couple of times they left Sutton players on the deck, Omar for one as we looked to attack. He didn't book their no 2 for a dive in the first half but booked David A for exactly the same thing in the second. David's incident actually involved more contact than their no 2 endured, i e none whatsoever. I thought the booking of Piergianni was a complete joke. Not even sure it was a foul but certainly not a yellow. Our first home match and we get the worst refereeing performance of the season. This guy is not good enough for this level and I am not sure he is good enough for the National either. He's probably a decent fella but his inconsistency was obviously apparent yesterday and being a decent fella doesn't excuse him from warranted criticism. |
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Post by os on Aug 29, 2021 21:06:27 GMT
Fully agreed. I cannot see Bouzanis bouncing back from this anymore, we need another keeper by Tuesday. Olaofe as well is much needed, however if I was to choose comes second to a decent keeper who does not make at least one major mistake per game. Defence is good, but if they fear any shot or cross might be a goal they will not be that good anymore. He has at least five goals to which had contributed, this is way too much, keeper usually get replaced at second or third mistake. How about we simply back our player who has had a tough opening to this season but has otherwise been superb for us? Didn’t we keep many clean sheets last season? Complete hyperbole bs to suggest he makes a mistake a game, he’s had a small run where he has been making errors after a consistent season with maybe a mistake every 15-20 games!!! It’s not like the mistakes wouldn’t have been mistakes a league lower, there has been nothing about him that has been ‘found out’ a level up. Couple of good games and I’m sure he’ll be up and running again. Nothing wrong with backing the players, I wasn't necessarily suggesting we need to get shot of players. Its a lot more about confidence then anything else, and how it looks to me that the team are lacking that. A good keeper or good striker doesn't become bad overnight, but they can and do go through bad patches, and that can impact on the confidence of the whole team and performance. You can change that by changing players or changing the mindsets of the ones you have. Its seems to me that most of the chances missed have been when there's been time to think about the shot and again with Dean when there is time to make a decision, such as a set piece. I have seen it so many times when a striker waits that little bit too long to have the shot or snatches at it. Again with a keeper instinctive stuff is fine but when you have to make a decision a bit of doubt creeps in and you get caught. A lot of football is played in the head, you only got to look at the difference between the Hartlepool match and yesterday, Pool never had a chance from the moment they stepped off the coach, Oldham smelt a bit of fear and went for it... |
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Post by amberchoc on Aug 30, 2021 9:02:16 GMT
The attendance of 3,262 will no doubt have pleased Bruce & Co. It was pretty close to our record league gate (since H&S started restricting capacities), which is 3,541 against Aldershot Town in April 2018. We should be in a position to top that once we have the new stand erected at the away end.
I've noticed that our final league game here is against Bradford City who have attracted 17,000+ against Oldham and 14,000+ against Stevenage, so I predict a real bumper crowd on April 30th, irrespective of where we are in the league.
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Post by Amber Aleman on Aug 30, 2021 10:25:34 GMT
I've noticed that our final league game here is against Bradford City who have attracted 17,000+ against Oldham and 14,000+ against Stevenage, so I predict a real bumper crowd on April 30th, irrespective of where we are in the league. Bradford are one of the clubs tipped for promotion. If they're on the verge of clinching the title or another automatic promotion spot on 30 April then their fans will surely travel in numbers. Long way off at the moment though! |
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Post by davethegrave on Aug 30, 2021 13:27:41 GMT
Disappointing result because we created chances and couldn't put them away.
I said to my friend when they equalised that I could see them going on to win. Maybe a fitness/experience thing.
More disappointing was at the end when a loudmouth behind us angrily yelled "You brought that on yourselves!"
We looked round in astonishment and someone nearby admonished him. The loudmouth then shouted "You want some? Come on then."
That's really not we expect. We'd just played our first home football league game without really being outplayed.
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