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Post by paz on Feb 16, 2022 12:31:05 GMT
I've not seen Matt Grey so angry as I did tonight. I need to see a reply of it but I thought it was a clear pen shout for a trip on David before they broke away and scored whilst most of our players (including most of our defence) were still protesting. Dean had no choice but to go one on one as he was totally exposed and to be fair that was a quality finish from their guy at that angle. Whilst Dean was otherwise excellent to suggest his part in the goal was anything but a total howler is ridiculous. The ball was wide and way out from goal, we had defenders that would have got back in. It was a shame timing wise as you’d hope we would have come out a bit different 2nd half but the 2nd goal straight away made it very difficult to get back into it. Certainly not blaming Dean for defeat and he made a couple of good saves but I’m sure he’ll be first to hold his hands up on the 2nd goal. I thought if there was a trip on Ajiboye it was just outside the area. Another example of a referee who couldn’t wait to give them a decision for a penalty on barely any contact, we’re certainly not getting any help from the ref at the moment. I think Deano often shows the quality of a goal keeper that could play at a higher level than league 2. But he is prone to mistakes which is probably why he is playing at this level. But I have to say, over all he has been a great keeper for us and I think his pluses outweigh the negatives. |
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Post by Andy K on Feb 16, 2022 12:37:21 GMT
Funny how the focus is about "Bouzanis having a total howler" missed out what I think was a worse goal to concede - the first one. Kenny made a horlicks of an interception with no real pressure on and Kizzi totally missing his man giving him plenty of space to pick his spot. It's a really rare occasion when just one player is at fault for a goal and for both of the goals we let in last night, it's wholly unfair to blame one player for them. Invariably it's a combination.
I don't think anyone can complain that we were beaten by a very good side last night. I think we can acknowledge we were poor (and a big part of that was the circumstances around our squad), but I don't think we can knock the effort of a lot of players out there for us. The season wasn't won or lost last night. We've got 14 games left. 25 points out of those 45 should see us in the play offs. That's more than possible and if that is the case, in our first season in the football league with the resources we have, I don't think anyone should underestimate what a huge achievement that would be.
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Post by paz on Feb 16, 2022 12:45:07 GMT
Suggest you watch the footage, the guy would have ended up in the right channel with Goodliffe alongside. If you seriously maintain that Deano made the correct decision to be out there and aren’t on the wind up then I’m truly astonished! I've watched it thanks. And as you've said, I must be ridiculous. If you want to ignore that Wyatt and Enzio were nowhere in sight, Rowe was nowhere near the pace, how their player out ran Goodliffe and how it was a quality finish by them to pin this on Bouzanis as being a "total howler", possibly just to attempt to score points off me (which to any observer is something you've made a habit of) then feel free to. I'm sure you feel a lot better for that. Goodliffe was goal side of him while he was moving out to the wing and was virtually in the same position as Deano put him self in. Cobi was also coming back to cover and I think it was Kizzi who was also covering in the center. It was quite a dangerous break but not dangerous enough for Deano to leave his box like he did IMO, we just about had cover. |
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Post by sufc1898 on Feb 16, 2022 12:54:05 GMT
I’ve just seen the highlights for the first time. My reaction remains the same to the second goal - their player would not have scored if Dean had stayed on his line. Dean also raises his hand to apologise for the error. That said, there were errors for our first goal too. Not point in all this finger pointing, and negativity, after such a great recent unbeaten run. We go again on Saturday, with hopefully a few more bodies available.
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Post by Amber Aleman on Feb 16, 2022 12:55:56 GMT
Sometimes in football (as in life generally) it's possible to turn a weakness into a strength, to suffer a short-term loss for a longer-term gain. Yesterday's match was a stark reminder of the team's fallibility. Given the number of our players who were unfit or not fully fit, a defeat (against a decent side) was on the cards from the start. But giving some game time to Coby and Harry, important but recovering players who in a fitter squad may not have got onto the pitch at all, means they're now better prepared to make a contribution in Saturday's match at Hartlepool, and can perhaps return to regular starts sooner than would otherwise have been the case.
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Post by trev on Feb 16, 2022 13:19:38 GMT
That looked and felt fairly dreadful. A few limitations became apparent. Yet, it's a 2-0 defeat, away from home, against a good team who currently seem to have the wood on us. In the context of a very successful season. Tant pis. There's no need to swear, mate!  Little to add to what others have already said, save to say that the quality of Bouzanis' shot stopping, in particular his penalty saving ability, is arguably Premiership quality. And I will never forget his triptych of penalty saves against Stevenage, world class! By contrast, his positioning is very much a work in progress... |
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Post by fran1 on Feb 16, 2022 13:42:47 GMT
I was one of the 144 or so away supporters in Bristol last evening.
Yes I muttered aloud saying why is our defence so vulnerable this evening?
However I always find that Matt Gray will explain what's what in in his post- match interview so I prefer not to single out even one of our smashing players who give their all on the pitch.
To read this criticism of Deano upsets me to be honest. I think we are fortunate to have him . He saved a penalty AND made a incredible save in the first half which we saw from our away section behind the goal nets.
I listened this morning(as I did not get home until 1.15am) and the Manager and Harry Beautyman spoke much sense in their interviews in my humble opinion. Players played their hearts out despite having to be asked to play after long injury absences or lack of match fitness after more recent injury/ illness .
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Post by garethl on Feb 16, 2022 13:43:58 GMT
Suggest you watch the footage, the guy would have ended up in the right channel with Goodliffe alongside. If you seriously maintain that Deano made the correct decision to be out there and aren’t on the wind up then I’m truly astonished! I've watched it thanks. And as you've said, I must be ridiculous. If you want to ignore that Wyatt and Enzio were nowhere in sight, Rowe was nowhere near the pace, how their player out ran Goodliffe and how it was a quality finish by them to pin this on Bouzanis as being a "total howler", possibly just to attempt to score points off me (which to any observer is something you've made a habit of) then feel free to. I'm sure you feel a lot better for that. You wrote something I disagreed with. Nothing personal, just what happens on a forum. |
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Post by is4 on Feb 16, 2022 13:46:18 GMT
Must agree with what you said Francis.
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Post by garethl on Feb 16, 2022 13:46:27 GMT
I totally back Deano, as I did at the start of the season when he was criticised, he is still overall a good keeper for the level. But he’s also big enough to accept he had a shocker on that occasion. Even on the night he made a penalty save so in a sense had already made good on it. We likely would have lost anyway and were comfortably 2nd best, it could have been a lot worse. I think we can talk about an error without it sending players into a downward spiral! It’ll likely be included in match reports and I’m sure will be mentioned in the changing room. It was just a comment on timing it effectively didn’t give us a chance to use the half time regroup to have a go, we’ll never know what would have happened (likely no different!). One of Deano’s assets is his confidence and mental strength to come back well so I expect he’ll bounce straight back.
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Post by Stewart on Feb 16, 2022 14:05:40 GMT
I have to say the home fans support was superb last night.
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Post by is4 on Feb 16, 2022 14:14:55 GMT
I agree with you Stewart.
When they started singing it was great to hear.
Also the stewards were good and friendly.
We liked the parade of stewards either side of the coach as we left the ground.
Waving to us as we left the car park.
A nice gesture.
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Post by garethl on Feb 16, 2022 14:35:28 GMT
I agree with you Stewart. When they started singing it was great to hear. Also the stewards were good and friendly. We liked the parade of stewards either side of the coach as we left the ground. Waving to us as we left the car park. A nice gesture. Spoke at length to one, Swindon fan usually based there. He said they’d been instructed to line up as apparently restless natives were going to pelt us! 😂 Thought it unlikely they’d be too worked up over little old Sutton. |
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Post by is4 on Feb 16, 2022 14:44:20 GMT
Thanks for info Gareth.
Did not know that ( the natives were restless )
But as I said at the time it looked a nice gesture 👌.
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Post by markf on Feb 16, 2022 14:46:52 GMT
Gareth L and Andy K (there's a thing) having a spat over the second goal when they overlook the real culprit, the ref. The ball shouldn't have been up that end, it should have been set up on the edge of the box giving Kenny D a chance to repeat his excellence from Saturday. I have never seen Matt G look so angry with an official (I was raging and glad that Sal wasn't anywhere near me!!). But then, he had tried to give them a second goal twice before but thwarted each time. Their disallowed goal was so obviously offside it is astonishing that it was awarded in the first place (a myopic lino not seeing who got the final touch I suspect) and then the pen. As soft as they come but when David A gets brought down outside the box, nothing.
Os reckons the ref didn't have an influence on the outcome; maybe not as Rovers were excellent - the best attacking displayover 90 mins I have seen from a side this season - but 1-0 at h-t, a free-kick on the edge of the box with 45 mins of playing down the slope to come is far better than being 2-0 adrift 30 seconds after the break. It totally knocked the stuffing out of U's mentally if not physically and was one of many crass "homer" decisions made by an absolute imbecil with the whistle. Ben W has to jump a late challenge, nothing; Ben W doesn't touch their guy he goes over, foul. And so it progressed throughout. It was embarassing to watch. Some on this forum state that ref's don't favour either side and that we shouldn't shout at them. Please can those same individuals explain last night? Was it home bias or just total incompetence? Either way, the guy is going to get dog's abuse for that performance and I truly obliged. Not quite Ebbsfleet 2015 but not far off.
It was not like the hosts needed a helping hand as they took full advantage of a drastically reduced U's squad who had to select Coby R from the start and Harry B on the bench, clearly neither properly ready for the rigours of L2 after long lay-offs.
U's responded well to conceding the early goal but good defending and on occasion rash finishing, kept their goal intact while the hosts poured down the hill with menace but fortunately not enough quality finishing to extend their lead. The second half started as we know and ended the match as a contest. Plenty of willing workers from Sutton but little goal threat thereafter while Rovers failed to extend their lead. Collins finish for the second was excellent but it should never have been allowed to happen. I thought he was good in the 1-1 draw at GGL and he deservedly got the MotM last night.
Thought the home fans were great last night, although many appeared to be as blind as the lino re that disallowed goal. But the noise that was generated from the home end at times was better than at grounds with a bigger home following such as Bradford C. Impressive.
As for Rovers as a club, I was forced to buy a seat ticket for the original fixture as no standing was permitted for away fans. Last night there was standing, so how do I claim a refund? Scandalous treatment but then they have got to keep their manager and his gob in readies somehow so why not, even if not purposely, fleece the away fans?
On to Hartlepool (if it's still there) or more importantly, my roof is! Batten down those hatches folks.
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