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Post by is4 on Oct 22, 2022 18:04:09 GMT
To sufc1898. Yes Matt is the manager. You asked me how I would play it.which I relied. I asked the same to you .But you did not answer.l will ask you again. HOW WOULD YOU PLAY TODAYS GAME?
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Post by Big Al on Oct 22, 2022 18:08:15 GMT
TBH really poor advert for the game. One team obsessed by time wasting, simulation and cheating (and yes I know we would probably do much the same if the situation were reversed) and the other devoid of any ideas as to how to break down a team with 10 men. Two things surprise however. Firstly we presumably practice playing against 10 in training so why did we see no discernible plan B - even if it were to be unsuccessful surely we should have tried something different. Secondly our ability to manage a game until the very end again let’s us down - once again surely we cover this on the training field so how comes this keeps happening?
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Post by pinewalker on Oct 22, 2022 18:27:50 GMT
A poor show today, as others have remarked.
I have one thing to add about our corners. It is pointless having 4 or 5 tall men who all position themselves exactly underneath the expected curving flight of the ball before it is hit. First because jumping from a standstill rather than jumping while running means getting less elevation, second because all the power on the header has to come from the neck muscles not momentum. Plus, if the ball is hit on a path further from goal, it goes behind all the Sutton players and the defence can launch a counter-attack with players over. At least three of our attackers should start near the edge of the area and on the hand signal be running towards goal when the corner is taken. If one of them does meet the ball he can jump higher, head the ball down and with more power.
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Post by davep on Oct 22, 2022 18:49:11 GMT
Looking at the EFL League Two stats for this season, Donovan has had more shots per 90 minutes played than any other player in League Two.
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Post by os on Oct 22, 2022 19:24:26 GMT
Looking at the EFL League Two stats for this season, Donovan has had more shots per 90 minutes played than any other player in League Two. Anyone who has listened to some of our games on commentary only will have heard terms like, mis-controlled, not enough on it, too far infront of him, just behind him, over hit, etc, etc from our final balls. You just get that feeling that the front 2 are never going to score no matter how good the opening. The goals we are scoring are from scraps, today a penalty, last week chaos in the box, nothing is clear cut bang pick that out sort of thing.
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Post by backhome2016 on Oct 22, 2022 19:32:33 GMT
Looking at the EFL League Two stats for this season, Donovan has had more shots per 90 minutes played than any other player in League Two. Anyone who has listened to some of our games on commentary only will have heard terms like, mis-controlled, not enough on it, too far infront of him, just behind him, over hit, etc, etc from our final balls. You just get that feeling that the front 2 are never going to score no matter how good the opening. Donovan will never be able to turn Omar headed flick-ons into goals with his back to goal and one (or two) big defenders right up against him. Donovan needs balls played into him as he runs at goal, or at least to his feet with just a single defender to beat. He is not a striker who can feed off of random crumbs thrown at him. And a word on Will R. I really rate him, but today his first touch was off (as already stated on this forum). A few times he had an overlapping runner (normally Sam H) as an easy pass but chose instead to cut inside where he lost possession. He is better than that.
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Post by halftimet on Oct 22, 2022 19:34:32 GMT
The full backs put most crosses in today not the wingers. Doesn’t matter really as no one anywhere near them.
Ps Still 1-1
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Post by markf on Oct 22, 2022 19:59:15 GMT
Some of us never hear the commentary. We don't have to cos we can see with our own eyes, I.e. we're actually at the match.
I think sometimes fans expect too much. The squad is, through injury, short of midfielders and it lost another today.
That was a big loss. I would have actually preferred for it to have been 11 v 11 throughout if it meant Easty was still on the pitch. He has been Sutton's most consistent performer this season and his absence was noticeable.
Walsall's manager had pre match suggested his side would need to tough it out to get anything. Bloody hell, he weren't kidding. Two early bookings then a third for the ridiculously raised boot that led to the dismissal. This was the guy who couldn't start the match properly, he didn't see the finish either.
I think it suited Walsall. They just stuck 8 behind the ball, kept a very good shape and dealt with most of what U's could offer.
The one chance to break was foiled by a disappointing first touch and the opportunity to set up a one on one, lost.
I think there were a few below par performances in the Sutton team today but considering how stretched the squad is, it's to be expected.
I couldn't see either team scoring tbh. Once again one late error cost U's a win. Has to be said it was a top finish though.
The ref seemed to handle Walsall's over the top approach well but after the dismissal he decided time wasting was fine and did absolutely nothing to stop it. He then had a go at Sutton for slightly delaying a free kick at 0 0 and then again just after U's had taken the lead. Laughable. Refs have been instructed to clamp down on this stuff this season, keeping the ball in play more. If that was his interpretation of that instruction god help the game of football.
Also from the corner from which the penalty was awarded he blew his whistle just after the kick had been taken I.e. the ball in the air. What was he doing? Just no idea how to manage the game. Awful.
Another point but should have been three.
Just hope Easty is ok and not going to be out too long.
Tough away matches to follow but let's stick behind the lads. Can't fault the effort and as long as they keep doing that, I for one, in the current circumstances, won't, indeed can't, complain.
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Post by boomboom on Oct 22, 2022 21:09:19 GMT
Walsall gave a textbook display, apart from conceding the penalty, as to how to play 10 v 11 and we lacked sufficient craft and guile - characteristics we're not overblessed with - to break them down. Would our more usual game plan have worked better than the patient passing game we employed: who knows?
In partial mitigation, as MarkF says, the squad is stretched particularly in midfield, none more so than today with Easty going off and Milsom, I thought, visibly starting to tire around the hour mark. Moreover, in normal circumstances, one wouldn't expect Lovatt to have had such a long run despite him not looking out of place.
The lack of goals from our strikers is a concern, in part because they're not being given the service.
Matt and Jason were both defenders: would we benefit from an attacking coach?
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Post by swedishchapter on Oct 22, 2022 21:32:52 GMT
Very poor this... The wingers were not good enough today... But I still enjoy every minute in the EFL! 💛🤎
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Post by Amber Aleman on Oct 23, 2022 5:54:10 GMT
Something of a stinker, that game! Of course playing against ten men isn't easy (though Salford seemed to find it so four weeks previously), but it's disappointing that, with a man advantage for over an hour, and 72% possession, we had nothing more than Rob Milsom's penalty to show for that.
You have to give Walsall some credit for their defending. We did deliver some inviting crosses into their area, but our front men didn't get near them. The player who came closest to scoring from open play was Will Randall who struck a post with an early effort, while Adam Lovatt was also unafraid to try his luck from distance.
Then the curse of the late opposition goal struck again. This time the blow didn't fall after the 90th minute; as against Salford, the ten minutes after the 80th proved to be the danger zone.
Next up is a midweek trip to 3rd-placed Northampton who yesterday won 3-2 at Stevenage. Three of the goals in that game came after the 80th minute. Heads screwed on please!
It seems there's a chance that Craig will be fit to play on Tuesday.
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Post by garethl on Oct 23, 2022 7:41:55 GMT
Can't fault the effort and as long as they keep doing that, I for one, in the current circumstances, won't, indeed can't, complain. Key point of course. There are no magic wands and I’m sure the management are well aware of areas to improve/work on. We are low on resource in comparison to most of this league, we are what we are and the players/management are united and unceasing in their efforts. This should be enough to see us to a 3rd season in the EFL and we are well positioned despite being on less points than perhaps we should be. We are lucky to have them all.
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Post by baboonfish on Oct 23, 2022 9:47:55 GMT
I thought Milsom, Bugiel and Rowe had decent games, the rest not great. The biggest disappointment today amongst the players, in my opinion, was Will Randall. We all know he’s a potential match winner, but today he was just poor. His biggest problem of course is that he’s too one-footed, and he cuts in on his right 99% of the time; he’s becoming far too predictable and easy to defend against. Here’s a suggestion, why not play him on the right, maybe then he’ll get to the touchline and deliver the kind of cross or cross-shots we know he can deliver? Maybe then the likes of Bugiel and Wilson could attack a ball whilst facing the goal rather than invariably having their backs to goal. Another suggestion for Randall - practice how to use your left foot! Ridiculous comment. Randall had one bad game. He's worked tirelessly on improving his ability on the outside, hence why he's gone from a squad player to our key player. He's scored numerous times cutting inside and improved all areas of his game. Yes he prefers coming inside but you'd say exactly the same about Mo Salah. Dismal result yes but we are simply not set up to be the side with possession. Can count on 1 hand the times we have won with more than 50% in L2. This is why we always struggle against 10. Yes we've been found out a bit this season. Yes Matt seriously needs to work on a plan B. But some truly silly comments in this thread.
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Post by Amber Aleman on Oct 23, 2022 9:52:25 GMT
Once again the FLP reporter chooses to highlight an extended whinge from the opposition manager, Michael Flynn quoted as being "disgusted" by the penalty award. Clearly Flynn hadn't studied the footage; you'll rarely see a more blatant offence as the accident-prone Peter Clarke hauls down Coby Rowe.
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Post by markf on Oct 23, 2022 10:24:10 GMT
Just read that. They gave the ref 4/10. Another FLP reporter somewhat influenced by an irate manager?
Dunno where they get these guys but they appear to be as bad as the officials.
4 is harsh. As previously stated, his main failing was doing nothing about the time wasting.
Rest assured if we had done it to that degree we would have picked up yellow cards.
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