jr
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Post by jr on Mar 7, 2023 23:34:05 GMT
Another good win against a limited Crawley side. Crawley did look dangerous going forward but had no end product.
Omar scored an outrageous second goal.
The ref was inept and missed plenty of chances to book players from an over physical opposition. The Lino on the Rec side was probably the worst I’ve seen all season. He had a clear view of our 4th goal at the end but must have blinked at the wrong time!
Second place here we come!
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Post by markf on Mar 7, 2023 23:47:26 GMT
Great win. Three goals in a match at last for U's. Was four but the line who was right on the corner flag so in line was either blinded temporarily are just plain incompetent. I think the latter reason is nearest. Shocking and embarrassing and sums up the state of officiating in this country at present. Don't think we have seen a decent ref performance this year.
Thought Crawley looked sparky after going two down and had a go but once their idiot six, who should have been sent off for the first one on Omar, finally got sent off, think the ref actually missed that on Kylian, there day was really done.
God only knows why Lindsay left Swindon for Crawley. He must love a challenge and boy has he got one. Their fans negativity that was so evident in their songs tonight can't help and their reaction at the end to their players portrays a club at odds with itself and in decline.
Shame because we need to keep local clubs in this division. Doesn't look promising for Crawley.
Well played Sutton. A bit of battle but superiority won the day.
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Post by garethl on Mar 7, 2023 23:50:13 GMT
Good result, as expected Crawley no mugs and always a goal threat. We always looked likely to score though given some of the space we were given, for a long time we lacked a final pass but good goals either side of the break gave us a nice bit of breathing space. It was never over though as Crawley threatened to get 1 back, which would have made things dicey. Sending off and the 3rd ended things.
Oddest bunch of supporters I think I’ve come across. I get being anti the ownership but not sure why they can’t get behind their players who are capable of surviving. Unbelievably negative.
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Post by davep on Mar 8, 2023 6:28:19 GMT
Seven of our last eleven against other sides in the top 10 - starting with a tough trip to Barrow. A difficult run in - but at least our destiny is largely in our own hands. Despite our good form, still think that there is another gear to come from our team - and I think that we are going to need to find it between now and the end of the season if we are going to be winners at Wembley.
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Post by simon on Mar 8, 2023 7:04:21 GMT
Seven of our last eleven against other sides in the top 10 - starting with a tough trip to Barrow. A difficult run in - but at least our destiny is largely in our own hands. Despite our good form, still think that there is another gear to come from our team - and I think that we are going to need to find it between now and the end of the season if we are going to be winners at Wembley. I had a look at the fwp websites predicted final league table after last night's game and they reckon we'll only get 10 points from the last 11 including a win at home to the Leyton Orient.
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Post by boomboom on Mar 8, 2023 9:10:11 GMT
Delighted for Omar who got just reward for yet another battling performance which there've been plenty of this season. I thought Crawley looked far from a basement side before we scored but that and the second goal arrived just at the right times with Angol coolly slotting home the third - he just looks like one of those players who has goals in him. The icing on the cake wasn't to be but three goals and three points in one of the most enjoyable games I've seen this campaign.
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Post by Del on Mar 8, 2023 9:34:59 GMT
Another good win against a battling Crawley side. Hopefully they have enough to stay up as its good for the attendance when we have a local derby even on a Tuesday night.
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Post by baboonfish on Mar 8, 2023 10:39:21 GMT
Not sure why people are moaning about the ref / lino (as usual). Ref was generally fair, didn't bottle the sending off, although I assume this was called by 4th official or lino and on the replay it looks like a straight red (really nasty from their 6). There's been some decent refereeing performances this season and we've got the benefit of the doubt a few times recently. Definitely got it on the 3rd goal. The young arsenal lad who came on at LB for their 11 (replacing by far their best player last night - a very odd sub) looked totally out of his depth and may have played Lee onside. Will have to wait for pitchside.
Lucky to win 3-0 but we took our chances and they didnt. Not sure why they play last season's top scorer Telford in the number 10 position, as he looks like their only goal threat.
Dennis really impressed me. He fully occupied both CBs by taking a central position and trying to spin in behind at any opportunity. I think Wilson will struggle to get back into the side. He is a similar player who likes to play on the shoulder, but he tends to drift wide and the ball comes back too often. Dennis's play really allowed Omar to get forward more, and allowed us to play more out and out 4-4-2 rather than the 4-4-1-1 we play with OB / DW.
Sublime from Omar, and Rose is slowly beginning to look like one of MG's most astute signings, if not the most. He's improved his weaknesses, commands his box fairly well and his shot stopping thus far is up with all the keepers we remember with great fondness for their shot stopping skils, such as Howells, Scriven, Worner.
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Post by Andy K on Mar 8, 2023 10:51:58 GMT
Another good win against a battling Crawley side. Hopefully they have enough to stay up as its good for the attendance when we have a local derby even on a Tuesday night. I don't think that concerns me at all. Presuming Wrexham and/or Notts C come up, they'd be certain to bring more than Crawley and more than likely spend more at the ground or within the locality. Localish derbies don't always bring in crowds. Boreham Wood certainly won't
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Post by davef on Mar 8, 2023 11:06:27 GMT
Wouldn't the comparison be against the other relegation candidates, not who might come up ? Also, the travel costs for the team to Crawley or AFCW, for example, are much lower than Hartlepool.
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Post by boomboom on Mar 8, 2023 11:27:28 GMT
Is this the first time this season we’ve had a positive goal difference? I think after the 27th August Sutton had a goal difference of +1 after Mansfield. I was wondering that but I think you'll find it was following the win against Hartlepool in mid September.
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Post by markf on Mar 8, 2023 11:46:00 GMT
In answer to Baboonfish, if you don't know why the officials have been ridiculed then I will point to the ball going clearly over the line as photographic evidence shows by some distance being missed by the linesman who was in line with the goal. How he couldn't see it when all behind could will be forever one of the mysteries of the world.
The whole point of football is scoring goals and when you do and the officials don't notice it is more than cause for concern.
Secondly the six's first yellow was for a blatant elbow on Omar after he had missed getting David Ajiboye. Then the ref missed the second similar assault on Kylian. I assume the 4th official didn't.
Both were red cards not two bloody yellows.
Still, if you think that's acceptable then perhaps your bar is set a lot lower than that of others.
Officiating in this country has been going downhill for years. Hopefully Howard Webb (world cup final aside) can do something positive now he has taken over from that idiot, whose name I forget, who has presided over this constant fall in standards that has seen English refs lose credibility abroad.
Let's face it, if Anthony Taylor is now considered our best we're in trouble.
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Post by baboonfish on Mar 8, 2023 11:56:03 GMT
In answer to Baboonfish, if you don't know why the officials have been ridiculed then I will point to the ball going clearly over the line as photographic evidence shows by some distance being missed by the linesman who was in line with the goal. How he couldn't see it when all behind could will be forever one of the mysteries of the world. The whole point of football is scoring goals and when you do and the officials don't notice it is more than cause for concern. Secondly the six's first yellow was for a blatant elbow on Omar after he had missed getting David Ajiboye. Then the ref missed the second similar assault on Kylian. I assume the 4th official didn't. Both were red cards not two bloody yellows. Still, if you think that's acceptable then perhaps your bar is set a lot lower than that of others. Officiating in this country has been going downhill for years. Hopefully Howard Webb (world cup final aside) can do something positive now he has taken over from that idiot, whose name I forget, who has presided over this constant fall in standards that has seen English refs lose credibility abroad. Let's face it, if Anthony Taylor is now considered our best we're in trouble. I agree the six was a nasty peice of work. But watching from not that far away, it was hard to see whether contact with Omar was intentional. Also the attack on KK was so far off the ball I am not surprised the ref missed it. I certainly didnt see it from in line with play. I cant comment on the ball over the line as I rushed off a moment before it to catch transport, but surely you take the rough (Hartlepool non-red on Will and ball over the line) with the smooth (Swindon equaliser should have been disallowed and questionable 3rd goal). Yes it's highly frustrating when clear goals are missed, and surely goalline tech needs to come in across all professional leagues, but at 3-0, it's really not important. The one at Bradford last season was utterly ridiculous - handball AND it was over the line. 2-0 and perhaps 10 men we would have won that game. Agree the linesmen are often poor and on those occasions its down to them to spot. But officiating is a thankless task and not easy. If you want answers, go watch referees getting regular physical and verbal abuse at amateur level. A lack of respect at grassroots level is one of the key reasons few people (except the sort of thick skinned limelight hoggers we often get) want to do it.
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Post by baboonfish on Mar 8, 2023 11:59:36 GMT
Another good win against a battling Crawley side. Hopefully they have enough to stay up as its good for the attendance when we have a local derby even on a Tuesday night. I don't think that concerns me at all. Presuming Wrexham and/or Notts C come up, they'd be certain to bring more than Crawley and more than likely spend more at the ground or within the locality. Localish derbies don't always bring in crowds. Boreham Wood certainly won't Wrexham coming up would be a lot of fun and a bumper crowd. Looking at the teams in danger in League One, we should have some decent trips there too. If Carlisel go up, then anyone but Morecambe going down/BW or Solihul coming up, and we've improved our fixture list considerably, with or without Crawley. I'd prefer Hartlepool or harrogate to go down than Crawley though.
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markf
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Post by markf on Mar 8, 2023 12:15:45 GMT
The one on Omar was deliberate he had tried to get David seconds before.
Omar got sent off for a non deliberate challenge at Stockport. Intent is no longer required for a red card, hasn't for years.
As for popping down the local rec to watch a Sunday morning ref, I have no need. I did it for 20 years and if you know what you're doing and show you're not there just for the match fee I.e. a modicum of interest, you tend to get by. Well, at least in my experience, stinker performances aside that is. I certainly had a couple but they were fortunately rare.
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