kpinwp
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Post by kpinwp on Nov 26, 2023 21:47:35 GMT
Let's see if we can win some games. Let's see if (for example) we can beat Crewe, at home.
As I say, if we do, I'll stop my moan.
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Post by sufc18 on Nov 26, 2023 21:56:10 GMT
Additionally no other club yet seems to have put in a really poor sequence of results. As soon as one starts to do so they then pull put of it. Bloody selfish, I call it. However we have crept up the form table to 19th over the last 6 matches and even out of the drop zone over the last 10 so there’s surely some hope that we can climb out of it in the league table too?
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Post by kpinwp on Nov 26, 2023 22:11:26 GMT
Additionally no other club yet seems to have put in a really poor sequence of results. As soon as one starts to do so they then pull put of it. Bloody selfish, I call it. However we have crept up the form table to 19th over the last 6 matches and even out of the drop zone over the last 10 so there’s surely some hope that we can climb out of it in the league table too? True enough, and I know many will say it's only about what we do ourselves. I'd just be reassured if a couple of teams had runs of just losses and occasional draws. Levelling down, as it were.
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Post by ggl on Nov 26, 2023 22:30:24 GMT
I understand why many people are feeling that a point away on Saturday was not good enough . That said , it will turn out to be a good one if we can win on Tuesday night . Our home form will be critical going forwards . Lose on Tuesday and the Grimsby point will look like not enough again . Let’s all hope that we can nick a win .
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Post by halftimet on Nov 27, 2023 7:12:18 GMT
I would suggest Crewe will be a harder test than FGR or Tranmere. Winning one of those was probably just as important if not more.
If we beat Grimsby at home a point at their place will look good.
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Post by Amber Aleman on Nov 27, 2023 7:41:49 GMT
This is surely a question of probability. Of course it's possible for us to stay up. But, on the basis of results so far, and taking account of the modest improvement over the last five weeks, I'd rate our chances of avoiding the drop as 20-25%. If we win our next two league matches, that could nudge up to 30-35%.
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Post by Andy K on Nov 27, 2023 9:05:45 GMT
For those talking about context. We're 4 points from safety with 27 games to go. If there were 3/4 games to go, there would be a valid point. Indeed. A further element of context might be that we have now played 19 games this season - not just a handful - and in that time have amassed 13 points. If we continue at that rate we will amass around 32 points by the time the season ends. Does anybody feel confident enough to say that would be enough for us to stay up? Sure. But then of course anyone who think that "rate" will be equalled across the entire season, then they probably don't watch much football. Unless it's the dullness of the Premier League where literally one or two teams win almost all their games all season in total expectation, anyone knows that seasons ebb and flow. Taking out Doncaster (which does seem to be an abberation) we've not been utterly terrible for almost 2 months now. There's been plenty of evidence from a number of our games that we are in a much better position playing wise than we were in September.
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Post by sallycat on Nov 27, 2023 13:50:49 GMT
Just a little thought experiment for those who seem certain we're going down despite it being only November.
If we were in the same position but in reverse, i.e. at the other end of the table, would you be saying with quite so much confidence that we'd be bound to win automatic promotion?
Perhaps the difference is that in that scenario we'd need to maintain the same trajectory whereas in this one we need to change it but it seems to be going that way already, which is why I'm not so sure we're doomed.
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Post by pinewalker on Nov 27, 2023 23:08:57 GMT
I agree with OS, and some of the U's football in the clips from Grimsby was of higher quality than that played in earlier whole games. So there is hope. In football you can field the same team playing the same way against different opponents and succeed against some and fail against others - we were succeeding at Grimsby.
What remains a gripe for me is watching the team failing against some opposition, and seeing no substitutes or changed tactics at half time but waiting until an hour has passed. This season there hasn't been an improvement in that first 15 minutes of the second half. Waiting a full hour is a triumph of hope over experience.
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