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Post by paz on Feb 10, 2024 18:35:59 GMT
What happened to the 'new manager bounce '? It seems to me that the team know that they're going down. Sadly, without a fight. We seem to have forgotten that you need to score goals to win matches. Another hugely disappointing result! I don't think they have forgot, just not good enough to do so.
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Post by os on Feb 10, 2024 18:42:29 GMT
Stats tell a different story though. 60-40 possession in our favour and more attacking play away to a team challenging for the play offs. Simply put we need to find a cutting edge and quickly. Hopefully Steve will find the right formula. Before Steve took charge we were getting outplayed every game and that is not the case now. It was always going to be a tough ask at Morecambe. It shows sometimes the stats are meaningless, once Morecambe got that early goal they controlled the match if not the ball, and really should have taken at least one of their clear cut chances to extend their lead. We offered very little at the sharp end to worry the home side.
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Post by paz on Feb 10, 2024 19:01:02 GMT
Its the first time under Steve that we can say we deserved defete, and the guys just did not have it in the tank. And it wont be the last time this season, the deficit is the same but remains huge pressure. I wonder if Steve regrets taking the job yet?
It will take a myrical now im my eyes. I just dont think our players are good enough for this league.
It would be interesting to see who stays and is still under contract next year, or if when in the Nat league we build a brand new team. Will the directors want to invest our parachute payment into an emediate return attempt? which wont be easy. Or will they use it to consilidate ourselves in the Nat league again? The latter more likely. I wonder if the plan is for Steve to remain into next season and be the man to rebuild. He has certainly not made us any worse than we were...
Im fed up of this season now and think we would be better off in the Nat League where it might be less depressing. Ultimately we have never really recovered from that massive run of heavy defetes and were never going to be good enough to turn that around as it now seems to be the case.
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Post by boomboom on Feb 10, 2024 19:15:04 GMT
Without checking the stats, I suspect Steve might now have a worse points-per-game record than Matt and certainly Jason despite having virtually a fully fit squad to pick from (albeit some of Matt's signings had injury issues) and the opportunity to do business in the transfer window.
It's very frustrating because as others have alluded to it's not as if we're now on the end of heavy defeats. If we could just pick up the odd couple of wins we'd be right back in the mix. I'm a glass quarter-full, let alone half-full, person but 3 points on Tuesday could we possibly then go on a much-needed run?
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Post by sufc1898 on Feb 10, 2024 19:16:02 GMT
45 points still to play for - it’s not over yet
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Post by kpinwp on Feb 10, 2024 19:23:33 GMT
I think we are better than we were. We're just not good enough.
Not winning, not scoring, not taking your chances, conceeding regularly, conceeding too easily. After a while all of these things can become set expectaions within a team. Habits. I see the team trying. But it feels to me that too much of their experience of this season has led them to believe, deep down, that it's just not going to happen.
Unless I'm massively over projecting, as that's completely how I feel. I can't find the morale to expect some little run of good form or good results to materialise out of not very much.
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Post by Amber Aleman on Feb 10, 2024 19:28:05 GMT
Simply not good enough.
In the first half we had most of the ball (almost two-thirds possession) but didn't do enough with it. Angol and Sanderson are not an effective front partnership, and the latter doesn't look up to this level of football. Morecambe scored with their first attack, a slick move, but one that exploited a gaping hole on the left side of our defence.
For the second half we brought on Smith, Patrick and Beautyman, which should have given us more of an attacking threat. Only it didn't. Our play became less cohesive and more disjointed, with too many passes going astray. We did manage a few shots on target but they were easy for the home keeper to deal with.
The first three games under Steve Morison showed promise, with the team battling to draws in tricky fixtures. But the last three have seen the team regress. We're now playing like a doomed side. Whatever psychological tools Steve is using to enhance performances and results are just not working at the moment. And we're now running out of road.
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Post by os on Feb 10, 2024 19:37:22 GMT
Will the directors want to invest our parachute payment into an emediate return attempt? which wont be easy. Or will they use it to consilidate ourselves in the Nat league again? The latter more likely. I wonder if the plan is for Steve to remain into next season and be the man to rebuild. He has certainly not made us any worse than we were... I don't think a push to return to the EFL would be viable without a lot of investment. I think sustaining National league premier status may prove a challenge. If there is a plan going forward, I would most interested in seeing it?
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Post by paz on Feb 10, 2024 19:59:24 GMT
Will the directors want to invest our parachute payment into an emediate return attempt? which wont be easy. Or will they use it to consilidate ourselves in the Nat league again? The latter more likely. I wonder if the plan is for Steve to remain into next season and be the man to rebuild. He has certainly not made us any worse than we were... I don't think a push to return to the EFL would be viable without a lot of investment. I think sustaining National league premier status may prove a challenge. If there is a plan going forward, I would most interested in seeing it? I think if we end the season losing 3 or 4 on the trot regularly like the start of this year, many of which as hammerings, then it might be hard to keep Steve on. But if he manages to maintain or chip away at that 7 point deficit, then it might be wise to give him the whole season next year to build his own side. I have no idea who is under contract for next year, but given how poor we have been I am not sure I will be very sentimental. I think it would be nice to see the expiranced heads like Eastie and Harry B stay. Goodliffe is still a decent defender as would Omar and John be in the Nat league. But I imagine many players will want out ASAP.
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Post by is4 on Feb 10, 2024 20:20:35 GMT
Same old,same old on the pitch.Gone back to old ways.Target football is not and has not worked. Same old ,same old in the interviews. No change.No answers.Are we watching different games? I think we are in agreement that it is National League football next season ( if i am reading the posts right).As been discussed in previous posts A rebuild of the squad MAYBE required.
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Post by sufc1898 on Feb 10, 2024 20:51:19 GMT
No, I’m not in agreement
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Post by halftimet on Feb 10, 2024 20:58:33 GMT
If we had beaten Doncaster the gap would have been 5 points but we didn’t.
Not particularly blaming Steve but we have not won under his management. We have to throw the kitchen sink at getting a point or three at this stage of the season even if it means conceding goals late on.
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Post by is4 on Feb 10, 2024 21:02:45 GMT
OK.fair comment. I was just reading some of the previous posts and talking to other supporters who had the same view.
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Post by paz on Feb 10, 2024 22:24:06 GMT
I am of the view that its not a case of us choosing to rebuild, but given many loans will leave, and a good few players out of contract, we may be in a position where we have to. I imagine most of the signings we made last summer were likely on 1 year deals too.
So who ever leads us into next season after what is likely going to be relegation, they will have an import job to do. Whether Steve can do the job is to be seen, he has made improvements, good recruitment, but results have not changed yet, hard to beat, but cant win. Though we have not lost 3, 4, or 7 on the trot with him, and are yet to get hammered 8-0.
It would be interesting what standard Steve is held to to get peoples support into next season, if we were to be in the Nat league next year. My feeling if we go down with a similar deficit than we have now, then their is argument to support him into next season, but if we end up being adrift by 15 plus points, then I would be nervous going into next season with him, even though ultimately it is mostly not his squad.
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Post by Del on Feb 10, 2024 22:36:29 GMT
Whilst i appreciate the disappointment of losing today its far too early to throw in the towel with 15 games to go. Steve in his interview said the standards fell today yet we only lost 1-O. Get that win ,close the gap to 4 points and everything will look a lot brighter. Too much doom and gloom on here. No one seems to appreciate we are playing in the Football League and we are not down yet.
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