frakey
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Post by frakey on Mar 13, 2011 18:17:31 GMT
Sorry Hendonboy but raking studs across an opponent's head and then being guilty of a two-footed challenge has nought to do with who got in the ref's face and who didn't. Your no 5 was constantly getting involved with every decision he made before he got booked along with our no 5. As I said earlier decisions wise, I thought the ref had a good game but not dealing correctly with incidents such as the above is why players begin to get the hump and also begin to wonder if anything goes.
I suspect the studs to head incident was an overthrow from what happened at your place in the first half a few weeks back.
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Post by Nick the Greek/The Speshul One on Mar 13, 2011 20:38:48 GMT
The 4 was a stamp/rake, I was directly in line and there was no need for him to bring his right foot down as he was landing on his left. Red card in my eyes.
The 9 was two footed and slightly off the ground (I was heading round to the bar and again in line), he certainly hit the ball first but from my understanding that doesn't matter, as he wasn't in control. Clumsy maybe, but still a red again in my eyes.
Luckily none of that matters as both of our players were okay to carry on and we secured all 3 points.
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Post by hendonboy on Mar 13, 2011 21:37:00 GMT
Sorry Hendonboy but raking studs across an opponent's head and then being guilty of a two-footed challenge has nought to do with who got in the ref's face and who didn't. Huh? I've read that several times, and I'm not sure quite what point you're trying to make. If you've said what you mean, I entirely agree - a player doing what you've described has nothing to do with players' behaviour towards the referee. As for the part about players getting the hump following that, as I previously said, players from both sides were in the referee's face, from the start. Those bookings came after half an hour and 44 minutes respectively, so I think it's a red herring to draw attention to those incidents as where the referee "lost control". He never had it in the first place as neither team gave him a chance to try and referee the thing himself.
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Amber
Youth Team Player
Davaj Levski
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Post by Amber on Mar 13, 2011 23:01:56 GMT
As regards the two incidents in the 1st half, if the referee or his assistants saw both the stamp on Davis (and it was a stamp) or the two-footer by Hendon's No.9 then why did they both only warrant a yellow card? Quite remarkable! After that it was open season on who could make the worst challenge of the match.
I think Tom Davis was targeted from the off actually. Both the 4 and the substitute 13 were hell bent on winding him up. The thing is, he usually responds....
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Millsy
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Post by Millsy on Mar 13, 2011 23:27:20 GMT
Interesting comments, Amber. The number 4 was Casey Maclaren. The same Maclaren at the centre of the flare up in the reverse fixture a short while ago. The Hendon report gave one version of events however, IIRC, Maclaren actually snatched the ball away and threw it in Tom Davis' face, causing the fracas. In any event and again I'm afraid I disagree with the author, the free-kick was clearly Sutton's, opposition players have no place grabbing the ball, leave it to the referee to decide from where it will be taken! In yesterday's match, a few minutes prior to Morgan's first yellow card, Morgan went through the back of Karl Murray to prevent Karl taking a free-kick, could easily have been a yellow in itself. Link to the report and quote below: www.hendonfc.net/Reports?id=3779" Three minutes from the end of the first half, the match flared up. A rash challenge from Diedhiou was spotted by the referee, who played an advantage, but it came to nothing as a challenge by Casey Maclaren on Karl Murray broke up play. As the referee sought out Diedhiou to administer a caution, at the spot of the foul, Sutton tried to place the ball where Maclaren and Murray had met.
Maclaren took the ball from Murray to take or kick it to where the referee was standing - and had signalled for the free-kick, but Murray reacted by snatching it back, then pulling Maclaren to the ground in a headlock. "
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Post by os on Mar 13, 2011 23:35:12 GMT
The No9's lunge was right in front of me, it was certainly perfectly timed because he made contact with the ball only. However if he had made any contact on the player then it could have caused serious damaged such was its ferocity. As far as I am concerned it was a dangerous and reclace challange worthy of only one outcome. The ref actually consulted the lino before giving the yellow which indicates to me he went for the middle ground and issued a yellow only?
Maybe the video will be more conclusive on both incidents?
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Paul L
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Post by Paul L on Mar 13, 2011 23:40:54 GMT
A couple of photos of the 9's challenge...
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Post by Duke on Mar 14, 2011 14:48:32 GMT
Did Dos and Payne have a bet on AJ playing again this season?
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frakey
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Post by frakey on Mar 14, 2011 18:52:31 GMT
HB, I never mentioned losing control. What I said was that he failed to produce the right colour card on two separate occasions.
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Post by amber4life on Mar 14, 2011 20:00:28 GMT
looking at bury and lowestofts run ins, bury have by far the tougher one with away games at harrow 'ricay sutton and lowestoft and tough home games with concord and wealdstone, they may drop a fair share of points against some very tough teams. Lowestoft on the other hand only play 4 teams in the top half of the table in their remaining 11 games and the rest are against teams fighting for survival, yes them teams may be fighting for their lives but i fully expect them too win most of them games and may well yet push us right to the wire. 4 wins and 2 draws or 5 wins shud just about be enough but 4 wins alone and we may well have to face the lottery of the play offs
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