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Post by travellingseagull on Mar 27, 2013 16:25:55 GMT
Oh right, so mainly hearsay. Where do Sutton stand in the scheme of things, top, middle, or bottom roughly? What about Billericay, are they on much more there? I thought I had heard a couple of musings from their fans that they were on the lowest budget. Hearsay to an extent, as teams don't actually publish their budgets but based on knowledge and information that is in the public domain. As far as ranking budgets, Welling, Chelmsford, Salisbury and Eastleigh are well ahead of everybody else, you're lot would be in the middle group and Weston and Billericay would be in the bottom group. |
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Post by garethl on Mar 27, 2013 16:45:51 GMT
Interesting. Can't believe Welling are big spenders given they almost went bust recently! Where are they getting the cash from?
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Post by jpm on Mar 27, 2013 16:57:31 GMT
It's alright Chelmsford having a big budget how about paying them paying their players. Everybody could have a big budget if they did not pay the bills
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Post by Andy K on Mar 27, 2013 17:16:17 GMT
Pointless conversation. Budgets change throughout the season. Ours certainly has mainly because of lower gates, no real FA cup money and postponements and therefore shrunk over the course of the season. The same applies most likely to Truro but for very different reasons. The whole point of a budget is to be flexible enough to reflect financial changes throughout the year. One could guess who's currently got the biggest budget at this moment in time, but making assumptions on out of date information is a bit silly. It could well be that Weston's current playing budget is higher than ours.
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Post by travellingseagull on Mar 27, 2013 17:18:10 GMT
Everybody could have a big budget if they did not pay the bills On that we can all agree. |
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Post by jencor on Mar 27, 2013 17:44:20 GMT
I guess most of the supporters, (home and away) were behind the gate/fence when the players were sent off and didn't get to see what went on as they went down the tunnel. Well I want to say to the Weston player and management who followed him (and Harry if need be), if you want to fight take it outside. To have a steward the wrong side of 80 get caught up in the fracas, when all he was doing was letting the players get into the dressing room area, was disgusting. To say I'm bloody annoyed is an understatement.  I hope all those involved are proud of themselves and in the cold light of day apologise to the said steward on Monday. Obviously the Weston lot can't do that, I don't suppose they will even remember that an old bloke just doing his job got pushed around. Idiots! |
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Post by travellingseagull on Mar 27, 2013 17:54:14 GMT
Well I want to say to the Weston player and management who followed him (and Harry if need be), if you want to fight take it outside. To have a steward the wrong side of 80 get caught up in the fracas, when all he was doing was letting the players get into the dressing room area, was disgusting. Is this supposed to be some sort of sick joke? When Naby was sent off he was followed down the tunnel by half your bench, several of who tried to attack him, encouraged by the stewards and supporters. Your stewards then started abusing the Weston supporters (including me) who were standing by the gate. To try and suggest that this was in any way Weston's fault is ridiculous. As I said in my first post your stewarding was the worst I've seen in forty odd years of watching football at all levels. |
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Post by os on Mar 27, 2013 18:05:44 GMT
Oh dear threats of violence from someone who wasn't even at the game let alone party to my conversion which included no threats, aggressive behavior or swearing and was conducted in a civilised manner between both parties.
I was in the tunnel area at the end of the match, and yes there was a lot of frustration vented towards a very poor referee, there was no aggressive behaviour from either set of supporters and certainly no attempts to start fights.
Teams who are mid table playing what is effectively a meaningless match for them, do not generally get 50 people berating the ref or opposing players for their behaviour on the pitch. I have never seen a Sutton side refused to return a ball after it was played out for a supposed injury?
Reports from Chelmsford v WSM last year reveal a very similar story to that of last night, on that ocassion WSM were trying to cling to a nil nil score line with similar methods. Chelmsford grabbed a goal in the dying minutes but the game lives on due to the tactics employed by the away side.
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Post by markf on Mar 27, 2013 22:36:36 GMT
The so-called aggressive stewarding was actually a colleague of the 80 year old holding out his arms to protect him from an unidentified person from Weston. I have that from the horses mouth & he has no reason to lie, why would he? I suggest some perspective is needed here. If that is the worst stewrding you've seen mate, you need to go to a few more away fixtures. Lewes springs to mind for a start.
As for the match, no issue with the score WSM started really well and scored two good goals but what took place after wasn't much of a statement for BSS football or the game at any level. The time-wasting tactics were so bloody obvious, well to all but the man who counted, who was truly awful with regards to his reaction (or lack of) to it and the other antics of the WSM players who would go down as if they had been shot only to get up pretty quickly when they realised the game was going on.
As for travelling seagulls asertion that their no 2's booking wasn't even a foul, then if he thinks that anything else he has posted, including his dubious claims over budgets, is shot through lack of credibility. The 2 didn't even complain which bearing in mind he spent most of the match doing so, says rather alot.
Twas a shame that WSM tok the approach they did because they had some good young players who looked far better when they were playing the game rather than the clock.
As for the ref, I had no issue with his use of cards tonight but his inability to act on time wasting (other than add the time on) was truly awful.
Of course, none of this will bother WSM as they got the win they needed but I know for sure U's wouldn't resort to such tactics from the 20 min mark. I could understand the last 10 but so early in the game?
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Post by nigcapgue on Mar 27, 2013 22:55:33 GMT
Well said markf Perhaps our friend travellingseagulls will now go away and put his rediculous points on some other site and put an end to this stupidity
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Post by os on Mar 27, 2013 23:14:46 GMT
I have now seen the full match again and all I can say is truely shocking, every trick in the book and the ref fell for it. I like the time wasting chat which simply resulted in another minute being taken out of the game. The balls being thrown back to Weston players who simply ignored it. The cosy chats with the ref to take more time out. The confusion of the board with the last substitution. The car park cleareances once the ball was already off the pitch. Then there were these cynical fouls which appear on video to show miraculous recoveries.
The whole match should go to the FA as a training video for match officials. As I said I haven't seen anything like since Heybridge 10yrs ago.
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Post by seagull92 on Mar 28, 2013 0:19:14 GMT
I wasn't at the game last night as I was finishing uni work, but isn't human nature to take what you can get? I am aware that we are getting a reputation in the league for these 'antics', but if the ref is going to let you get away with it, as last night proved, wouldn't you do it? Last nights result was huge for our season, and if our tactics got on your nerves, don't blame us, blame the "weak" official in my opinion.
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Post by travellingseagull on Mar 28, 2013 9:14:50 GMT
The so-called aggressive stewarding was actually a colleague of the 80 year old holding out his arms to protect him from an unidentified person from Weston. I have that from the horses mouth & he has no reason to lie, why would he? Can't comment on that as I didn't see it but I can assure you that the stewards who were giving us abuse were late 30's to maybe 50 max (I'm crap at judging ages), there was none of them anywhere near 80 I suggest some perspective is needed here. If that is the worst stewrding you've seen mate, you need to go to a few more away fixtures. Lewes springs to mind for a start. You're missing my point. I don't have an issue with poor stewarding, these blokes are mostly volunteers and are just trying to help out, my issue is with stewards actively encouraging and joining in with abusive behaviour. As for the match, no issue with the score WSM started really well and scored two good goals but what took place after wasn't much of a statement for BSS football or the game at any level. The time-wasting tactics were so bloody obvious, well to all but the man who counted, who was truly awful with regards to his reaction (or lack of) to it and the other antics of the WSM players who would go down as if they had been shot only to get up pretty quickly when they realised the game was going on. As I've already said it's easy to waste time when you're being kicked everytime you have the ball. As for travelling seagulls asertion that their no 2's booking wasn't even a foul, then if he thinks that anything else he has posted, including his dubious claims over budgets, is shot through lack of credibility. The 2 didn't even complain which bearing in mind he spent most of the match doing so, says rather alot. I stand by what I saw. Twas a shame that WSM tok the approach they did because they had some good young players who looked far better when they were playing the game rather than the clock. I know imagine having the cheek to go away from home to a tricky opponent and win 3-1, Weston should be ashamed of themselves!! As for the ref, I had no issue with his use of cards tonight but his inability to act on time wasting (other than add the time on) was truly awful. As I've already said the ref was truly terrible but it was both ways, McClaggon and Diallo were getting kicked up and down the park and got no protection whatsoever. Of course, none of this will bother WSM as they got the win they needed Correct but I know for sure U's wouldn't resort to such tactics from the 20 min mark. I could understand the last 10 but so early in the game? Think you were watching a different match. |
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Post by dontpanic on Mar 28, 2013 10:20:56 GMT
I see no ships!
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Post by nigcapgue on Mar 28, 2013 10:26:05 GMT
The so-called aggressive stewarding was actually a colleague of the 80 year old holding out his arms to protect him from an unidentified person from Weston. I have that from the horses mouth & he has no reason to lie, why would he? Can't comment on that as I didn't see it but I can assure you that the stewards who were giving us abuse were late 30's to maybe 50 max (I'm crap at judging ages), there was none of them anywhere near 80 You're missing my point. I don't have an issue with poor stewarding, these blokes are mostly volunteers and are just trying to help out, my issue is with stewards actively encouraging and joining in with abusive behaviour. As I've already said it's easy to waste time when you're being kicked everytime you have the ball. I stand by what I saw. I know imagine having the cheek to go away from home to a tricky opponent and win 3-1, Weston should be ashamed of themselves!! As I've already said the ref was truly terrible but it was both ways, McClaggon and Diallo were getting kicked up and down the park and got no protection whatsoever. Correct but I know for sure U's wouldn't resort to such tactics from the 20 min mark. I could understand the last 10 but so early in the game? Think you were watching a different match. I think travelling seagulls should go away and watch the full length video Notwithstanding seagull92 (not at the match) has confirmed Weston's tactics in other games |
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I hope all those involved are proud of themselves and in the cold light of day apologise to the said steward on Monday. Obviously the Weston lot can't do that, I don't suppose they will even remember that an old bloke just doing his job got pushed around. Idiots!
