Millsy
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Post by Millsy on Jan 19, 2008 18:29:55 GMT
Very difficult for an extremely young and inexperienced side today. To be fair the youngsters did as much as can be expected but with no Honey (suspended) and Scooby carrying a knock we only really had Bash and Dundas to carry the rest of the side.
Fisher could've been 4-1 up at half time and they had a clear penalty denied.
We had our best spell at 3-2 down and could've nicked a draw but overall 4-2 was a pretty fair reflection.
When you have to rely on Bash and Dundas and include AJ as a more experienced player then it's going to be hard. Tom & Jack do well but they need time. The rest of the side isn't up to it, I'm not questioning effort but we so desperately need some experienced big players.
Got to play 4-4-2 also, can't understand this one up front thing, poor old Dundas does brilliantly but has to get beaten up every game, amazing goal scoring record really.
As for those blaming the ref at the end, sorry but that's horseshit. This is the same ref that I slaughtered after the Basingstoke home game, can't blame him today.
We were the architects of our downfall, so what if Rob's free kick didn't clear the first man which led to their 2nd - even a simple header away from them would've given them the same fast breakaway, we left the middle wide open, naivety that I would be upset with on a Sunday and we were punished. How many free kicks in attacking positions wasted just added a bit more misery.
4-2, fair reflection, young side missing two key players, need some big experienced players asap Ernie, and play 4-4-2 please....
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Millsy
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Post by Millsy on Jan 19, 2008 18:32:33 GMT
Dorch and Stalebuns picking up a point each and Bognor winning doesn't help, boo.
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Post by papilon on Jan 19, 2008 18:53:17 GMT
missed ph but dont mean to be horrible having lee maskell in the side feels like we are playing with 10 men he did absolutly nothing and rob was playing for them, every pass went to one of there players his distribution was woefull just not good enough
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Gareth
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Post by Gareth on Jan 19, 2008 19:06:05 GMT
Think you're being a bit harsh on some of the youngsters there Millsy. Dean, Harry and AJ didn't really do anything wrong today and the first two in particular have done incredibly well since coming into the side a couple of months ago.
The midfield though was woeful today, apart from Bash who seemed to carry the other two that were playing in the middle with him. I hope we send Maskell packing at the earliest opportunity (I think he's got to stay a minimum of a month as he's on loan), and Rob Hughes was dreadful.
Harry isn't a right-winger - he's an out and out forward and to make him play out wide was unfair on him and won't do anything for his confidence.
It's blatantly obvious that we need experienced players in immediately. At least three required who can form the spine of the team through the middle.
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Post by Del on Jan 19, 2008 19:50:08 GMT
So where are the players that everyone thought Ernie would bring in? Badly needed at the moment.Rob hughes was dreadful and Maskell clearly lacks pace and inventiveness.Harry is too inexperienced to play the whole 90 minutes so for christ sake Ernie get some players if only on loan!
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Post by os on Jan 19, 2008 19:51:45 GMT
Here's a question what exactly does Warren give the side at the moment? He don't score, can't cross and looks like a one man circus act out on the wing, surely he either plays as a striker or not at all? Harry does not have the experience but appears to have the ability to play off Craig's shoulder, you either go wide with natural wingers who can cross or go narrow and play off your big man like Lewes play off Groves?? Maskell, what does he do??? Yes we need players but as of now we only have what we have and we need to change the system?
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Millsy
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Post by Millsy on Jan 19, 2008 19:53:58 GMT
Think you're being a bit harsh on some of the youngsters there Millsy. To quote myself, "I think the youngsters did as much as can be expected"I didn't think that sounded harsh, they're doing a great job it doesn't take away from the fact that we have a young, inexperienced side and it's showing. My point was that we need some big experienced players, not in any way a criticism, hence why I also praised Tom and Jack and included AJ as an 'experienced head'.
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Millsy
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Post by Millsy on Jan 19, 2008 19:57:43 GMT
It's blatantly obvious that we need experienced players in immediately. At least three required who can form the spine of the team through the middle. erm, that's exactly what I was saying, no harshness on youngsters just recognising that more experience is required!
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Post by papilon on Jan 19, 2008 20:07:10 GMT
i think harry did ok he was probably a bit nervous being its the first time he was in the starting line up hes got lots to prove. everyone keeps on about experience but isnt warren and lee supposed to be experienced and they do nothing for the team.
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Post by manchesteru on Jan 19, 2008 20:09:33 GMT
I must say that I felt very sorry for Dundas today, as he worked very hard on his own upfront, although his 2 goals were a touch on the lucky side!
I felt the 2 halves more or less mirrored each other, we score early on, look good for at least another for about 10 minutes and then we conceded a silly goal and lose our way totally. I felt our midfield (Bash aside) offered about as much resistance as Jelly. Rob Hughes and Lee Maskell were at best mediocre for most of the game. Felt AJ did well in defence, in that he carried the defence for most of the game today (even if a couple of his challenges were a bit 'risky' to say the least). At least Honey is back for Newport, boy have we missed him in the last couple of games!
(BTW Well done to the complete and utter maturity shown by the Fisher captain. A fine example to any watching children!)
Something needs to be ASAP, or we
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taz
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Post by taz on Jan 19, 2008 20:14:05 GMT
Bottom line is, we need new blood. As soon as we lose a player like Ug, or Scoobs, we are ALWAYS going to be struggling. The younger lads are doing great, but they need help around them. And carrying the likes of Maskell and Hughes most weeks isn't helping us either.
There are funds available. Lets go and get what we need. If we have to spend 10 grand to get these 2 lads Ernie wants from Basingstoke, so be it. If they help keep us up, it'll be worth every penny.
Because 10k certainly won't get you out of the Ryman Premier......
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Millsy
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Post by Millsy on Jan 19, 2008 20:17:32 GMT
Bottom line is, we need new blood. As soon as we lose a player like Ug, or Scoobs, we are ALWAYS going to be struggling. The younger lads are doing great, but they need help around them. And carrying the likes of Maskell and Hughes most weeks isn't helping us either. There are funds available. Lets go and get what we need. If we have to spend 10 grand to get these 2 lads Ernie wants from Basingstoke, so be it. If they help keep us up, it'll be worth every penny. Because 10k certainly won't get you out of the Ryman Premier...... that's what I was saying, ta!
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Post by VotP (CAFC) on Jan 19, 2008 21:30:05 GMT
Could have told you that but unfortunately you chose not to believe the footballing afficionados at CA and chose to follow your own misguided opinion. Surely though even the mighty Dundo can't save you now.....
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Post by Amber Aleman on Jan 20, 2008 1:27:46 GMT
I reckon that if we fail to beat Newport next Saturday then it probably is all over. The unbeaten run during the twelve days of Christmas is now starting to look like a false dawn.
Unusually, we did have a height advantage over our opponents, and that helped us to score our second goal. Unfortunately, they were rather good on the ground. In Andre McCollin, who scored all four of their goals, Fisher have a pacy mobile forward who knows how to shoot. I note from the programme that he was at Corinthian Casuals last season. Perhaps someone should ask why we didn't pick him up.
If Ernie Howe really thinks he can keep us up, there are a number of issues that he needs to sort out urgently.
1. Formation. As others have noted, Craig Dundas does a great job at front, but there's a limit to how much he can do on his own. McBean and Ottaway were so wide that they saw little of the ball and were rarely able to get forward to support Craig.
2. Defence. Others have commented on the inexperience of the back four, but why were they playing such a high line? Several times the Fisher forwards broke through quickly into acres of space leaving Wilson badly exposed. Not really the way to defend an early lead away from home.
3. Midfield. With Honey suspended, there was no obvious defensive midfileder to help protect the back four. But couldn't Alimi have played that role? Or Opara, who stayed on the bench?
4. Free kicks. Rob Hughes takes a mean corner but his free kicks are pants. If he practises them, there was little evidence of that this afternoon. Surely there's somebody else in the team who can at least test the keeper from 20 yards.
5. New signings. With a threadbare and youthful squad, we badly need to bring in two or three experienced players. If we can't strengthen the squad before next weekend, we may find it's too late for any new players to make enough difference.
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Post by robcafc on Jan 20, 2008 2:18:54 GMT
"Dundas awesome again ."
Mmm, looks like a struggling side hanging onto a thread offered by an ex- Carshalton forward who is propping up the whole show on his own. Worth logging all the pro-Dundo posts for the next time we get the 'Bobbins are sh*t' mantra ;D
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