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Post by Del on May 9, 2018 17:35:15 GMT
Barrow have released Byron Harrison and transfer-listed Bedsente Gomis. Based on Byron’s performances, wouldn’t mind singing him on a perm basis Which performances were those .I must have missed them. |
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Post by ryooon1999 on May 9, 2018 18:16:44 GMT
Based on Byron’s performances, wouldn’t mind singing him on a perm basis Which performances were those .I must have missed them. Well his first few appearances were very good in my opinion, he’s a good player but Tommy has taken the role of the main striker and hasn’t given Harrison as much of a chance. |
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Post by mca on May 9, 2018 20:46:30 GMT
Statistics for VNL FAC and FAT games with cup results given league points. Sutton United overall 57.5%. With Terrell Thomas playing 54%. Classy performer on the ball, but not always in the right place in the defence maybe? Stats with Beckwith 61.5%. Sorry Pinewalker I don’t usually disageee with anyone in football because ultimately it’s all about opinions. But STATS to make a point I can’t agree with, it’s not baseball it’s football. Your eyes are all the STAS you need. Have to disagree. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Stats have to play a part. The team is always greater than any individual. Not saying Beckwith is a better player that TT, but maybe him and JC work better together. Stats would suggest so |
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Post by pinewalker on May 9, 2018 22:17:27 GMT
Sorry Pinewalker I don’t usually disageee with anyone in football because ultimately it’s all about opinions. But STATS to make a point I can’t agree with, it’s not baseball it’s football. Your eyes are all the STAS you need. Have to disagree. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Stats have to play a part. The team is always greater than any individual. Not saying Beckwith is a better player that TT, but maybe him and JC work better together. Stats would suggest so I used to think like Sol, and would often favour the daring player, usually someone who lifted the crowd but exasperated his team mates. However MCA makes the crucial point, it is how the team plays as a unit which determines how successful it is. Then the stats are of relevance to the management. Sometimes they are a surprise - but over a long season not usually anomalous. This is well illustrated with international sides who have a huge pool to choose from and the opposite smaller nations with barely 22 players of sufficient quality. In the larger pool players may not try to make sacrifices from their own preferred role to accommodate a colleague - figuring the manager should pick another player who fits the jigsaw better. In the smaller nation they have to be more like a club side - adapt and play for each other. |
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Post by davethegrave on May 9, 2018 22:17:46 GMT
Regarding Nicky Bailey at left back I think you've got this totally wrong. Being a left back you have to be able to get up and down the pitch. Sitting in front of the back four is more about reading the game which doesn't need pace.
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Post by sol on May 10, 2018 6:11:43 GMT
Regarding Nicky Bailey at left back I think you've got this totally wrong. Being a left back you have to be able to get up and down the pitch. Sitting in front of the back four is more about reading the game which doesn't need pace. it depends on each manager’s philosophy. Some managers want both full backs to play high up both flanks with the sitting midfielder slotting in as a third centre back, and some managers only ask 1 full back to play high up always keeping the other one along the two CH’s. In our case SU - we also have KENNY D & CRAIG E and for me we missed Kenny on Sunday in the central area of the pitch. |
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Post by sol on May 10, 2018 6:16:36 GMT
Sorry Pinewalker I don’t usually disageee with anyone in football because ultimately it’s all about opinions. But STATS to make a point I can’t agree with, it’s not baseball it’s football. Your eyes are all the STAS you need. Have to disagree. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Stats have to play a part. The team is always greater than any individual. Not saying Beckwith is a better player that TT, but maybe him and JC work better together. Stats would suggest so I honestly believe if TT did not play for us on loan this season we would not have finished 3rd. I don’t believe the COMBO of Beckwith/Collins or Downer/Collins cuts it at this level anymore. |
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Post by Andy K on May 10, 2018 6:39:37 GMT
Stats suggesting 2 players work better together totally ignores the performance of the other 9 players on the pitch and who we are playing.
They can help inform sure, but management is so much more than that. If not then we might as well just have a computer in charge.
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Post by sol on May 10, 2018 6:48:53 GMT
Stats suggesting 2 players work better together totally ignores the performance of the other 9 players on the pitch and who we are playing. They can help inform sure, but management is so much more than that. If not then we might as well just have a computer in charge. for me that’s the crucial point that ANDY makes - - who you are playing is it Tranmere or Torquay. |
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Post by Del on May 10, 2018 6:54:30 GMT
Have to disagree. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Stats have to play a part. The team is always greater than any individual. Not saying Beckwith is a better player that TT, but maybe him and JC work better together. Stats would suggest so I honestly believe if TT did not play for us on loan this season we would not have finished 3rd. I don’t believe the COMBO of Beckwith/Collins or Downer/Collins cuts it at this level anymore. Totally agree. |
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Post by Amber Aleman on May 10, 2018 8:46:30 GMT
Yesterday I did a comparison of goals conceded between games in which Beckwith started and those in which Terell Thomas started. I won't bore you with the numbers; suffice to say that the exercise was inconclusive!
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Post by mca on May 10, 2018 10:41:24 GMT
Stats suggesting 2 players work better together totally ignores the performance of the other 9 players on the pitch and who we are playing. They can help inform sure, but management is so much more than that. If not then we might as well just have a computer in charge. That's exactly the managers job. To fit the team together. All I'm saying is that doesn't always mean playing the best individual regardless. It's the old Lampard/Gerrard biz. Both brilliant players who both looked bang average when played together for England. But that might just be that England are usually a but rubbish in general. |
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Post by localboy86 on May 10, 2018 13:01:59 GMT
Tony Burman steps down after 14 years in charge. Have to feel for Dartford a bit - only finished 2nd to Havant on goal difference then got edged out in the play-offs.
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Post by Andy K on May 10, 2018 15:51:20 GMT
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Post by trev on May 10, 2018 16:17:15 GMT
I wonder which club he'll have a whirlwind romance with next... |
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