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Post by Del on Jul 19, 2018 18:28:52 GMT
Really splashing the cash. Adam Rooney on 4 grand a week from Aberdeen.
We have our new Eastleigh !
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Post by trev on Jul 19, 2018 18:41:22 GMT
Talk about setting the bar high! Anything less than promotion this season will be an unmitigated failure for them now. Pressure's on...
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Post by Stewart on Jul 19, 2018 19:12:44 GMT
They’re playing Woking on Saturday, it will be interesting to see how get on.
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Post by os on Jul 19, 2018 20:45:35 GMT
Really splashing the cash. Adam Rooney on 4 grand a week from Aberdeen. We have our new Eastleigh ! My wife has been following their series on TV from the beginning, the boys of 93 gave one promise at the start of their ownership - They would not pile money in, they wanted the club to be self sustaining and would not simply go for glory because they can. So much for promises AYE! |
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Post by jamesmichaelcooper on Jul 20, 2018 16:43:04 GMT
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Post by trev on Jul 20, 2018 17:05:26 GMT
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Post by os on Jul 20, 2018 19:21:24 GMT
Its not going to end well.... |
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Post by ben on Jul 22, 2018 8:12:18 GMT
They’re playing Woking on Saturday, it will be interesting to see how get on. Strangely Woking's report of the game claims that the Cards were "unable to salvage a point against Salford" - strange claim for a pre-season friendly... Woking v Salford City Report |
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Post by Carl on Jul 22, 2018 9:09:46 GMT
Excellent interview with Co-owner of Salford City, Gary Neville. Clearly sets out his vision for Salford.
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Post by trev on Jul 22, 2018 10:09:16 GMT
No-one's doubting Neville & Co's passion and commitment, but their rise up the football pyramid is more the product of millions of pounds of investment rather than quality coaching, transfer market nous or canny management. The comparison with Wimbledon FC, a club founded in 1899 that didn't enter the football league until the late 70's, is particularly disingenuous.
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Post by markf on Jul 22, 2018 13:55:24 GMT
Just don't see the issue here. Neviile and his mates were considered good enough to earn millions as players and now they are putting it back into the game as co-owners of Salford City. Their money and if that's how they want to spend it that's their decision.
They haven't just concentrated on players. They have practically built a new ground on the old run-down one so even if they did walk away in five years they have left some legacy.
If their aim is to get in the EFL then they will spend what they think they need. There are no guarantees of course but Neville is not your stereotypical "thick ex-pro" and he knows what he is doing.
Wimbledon took 78 years to reach the FL and was an amateur club until 1964, Salford was founded in 1940 so will almost mirror Wimbledon's achievement (which was made on the casting of a vote not by winning a league or play-off - they was the SL Champions though) should they get promoted next season.
Wimbledon's fortune was to take Allen Batsford as manager from Walton & H and he took so many players from that excellent W&H team with him that they were relegated the very next season while Wimbledon won the SL. Pretty sure money would have played a part back then as it is now, if not in the same numbers.
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Post by os on Jul 22, 2018 17:56:51 GMT
I don't think Gary Neville is thick, or isn't passionate about his football, we all are. In all honesty, I am guessing if one of us won the Euro millions we might send a bit our clubs way. But with that said it doesn't necessarily make it right for the game overall, there is a significant knock on affect when the bar is raised like this.
Those affects can and do cause ripples which spread out across the whole game. Its easy to say well don't chase clubs like Salford or Billericay etc, just let them trounce everyone on their way through. The reality is, that we all want to be competitive, or there isn't much point in playing the game, thats not to say we expect to win every week, for some of us its simply not to get relegated.
What clubs like Salford are actually doing is pushing up player wage inflation, and pushing clubs already finding it difficult over the edge. I am not sure that we are not just allowing elitism to take hold in the game where only 3 or 4 sides can actually compete to win, with everyone else just making up the numbers. I do wonder what we would see if the lid was lifted on what is really going on in NL football, and how clubs are managing to stay competitive?
What people like Gary Neville have to remember its not just about Salford City, its about having a duty of care when you in such a position towards the whole game. Many a ship has founded in the wake of another, that would not have done if only the big ship had slowed down a little..
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Post by Andy K on Jul 22, 2018 19:42:00 GMT
Clubs always do this. More often than not it ends in tears. And whilst the rules are in place to allow this we can all moan about it to high heaven.
I just hope Salford fans don't turn into what Eastleigh became in the last 5 or so years. Deluded sense of entitlement and nasty with it. If they don't I won't have an issue with them.
Bottom line is would we rather be Salford or rather have Dos. No brainer for me..
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Post by Amber Aleman on Jul 22, 2018 21:29:19 GMT
What's happening in the National League is, on a much smaller scale, what's happened in the Premier League, where a handful of clubs have playing budgets that dwarf those of most of the other member clubs. For Salford in the NL read Man City in the PL. But I think the 'uneven playing-field' is less of a problem below the top level because there is more of a natural churn.
We all know that the club with the biggest budget doesn't necessarily win the league. (Macclesfield won the NL last season with a relatively modest wage bill.) The biggest PL clubs do, of course, recruit the top managers. But in non-League the best managers aren't necessarily at the wealthiest clubs. Success at our level is largely down to managers getting the best out of limited squads.
Sooner or later though, big-budget non-League clubs are likely to move up and into the Football League. At least then we don't have to compete with them anymore, and their sustainability will be put to sterner tests elsewhere. Anomalies have a habit of working themselves through over time.
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Post by trev on Jul 23, 2018 11:16:56 GMT
I find it particularly extraordinary that after leading Salford to three promotions in just four seasons, joint managers Anthony Johnson and Bernard Morley's not unreasonable requests for more favourable terms to their contracts were refused outright.
This happened in spite of the fact that Salford's owners are clearly not short of a few bob, having since replaced their former managers with a Division One manager, and bolstered the squad with several football league players on inflated contracts.
I do think it's something of a problem when the individuals responsible for a large part of Salford's success get off-loaded and replaced with "better" individuals. The message at Salford seems to be - if you do well enough to progress us up the divisions then we will replace you. I'm not sure that's a particularly healthy message to be sending out.
I also consider the suggestion that if Salford's current owners lose interest and leave the the club, they will have left a "legacy" behind them, fanciful at best. On the contrary, they would be leaving behind a financially unsustainable enterprise spending well beyond its means.
As others have observed, we have seen this happen many times before, and we all know how the story invariably ends.
However, whilst the Neville brothers et al remain onboard and willing to flash the cash, and they certainly seem wholeheartedly passionate and committed from what I have seen, I have no doubt the club will continue to do well, but long-term is an altogether different story...
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