Tommy Wright

[trev]

Oct 3, 2018 11:47:07 GMT surreyu said:

Oct 3, 2018 10:24:25 GMT trev said:

I wasn't suggesting for one moment that a ligament tear was nice! I've been rehabbing a knee injury myself, and it's taken me, a decidedly non-professional athlete, several weeks to get anywhere near back to my original level of fitness. I'm sorry to hear about your historical injury, sounds like a nightmare..

To be honest with you jr, I didn't have a clue what a grade 2 injury was either until your post late last night - I Google'd it and established that a grade 2 is a partial tear whereas a grade 3 is a full tear - from what I gathered via t'web, a grade 2 injury takes around 2-8 weeks to recover from, whereas the far worse grade 3 injury is more in the 6-12 months region.

Anyway, thanks for clarifying that Tommy's injury is a grade 2 as opposed to a grade 3.. it appears my original interpretation of what you said was therefore correct.

No I think you’re still misunderstanding what a ruptured ACL is, that’s a season ender

My understanding is that when it comes to ligament and tendon injuries, the terms "rupture" and "tear" are interchangeable. As Tommy himself has said, the injury has been categorised as grade 2, which denotes a partial rupture (or tear) as opposed to a complete rupture (or tear), and therefore, the anticipated recovery time is far quicker than for a full-blown grade 3 injury.



It goes without saying that I hope I'm not misunderstanding the situation!



I will refrain from commenting further until we have official confirmation of the anticipated recovery time, although I would have thought that the player himself confirming on social media that it's a grade 2 rupture is quite official...

[surreyu]

Oct 3, 2018 12:14:39 GMT trev said:

Oct 3, 2018 11:47:07 GMT surreyu said:

No I think you’re still misunderstanding what a ruptured ACL is, that’s a season ender

My understanding is that when it comes to ligament and tendon injuries, the terms "rupture" and "tear" are interchangeable. As Tommy himself has said, the injury has been categorised as grade 2, which denotes a partial rupture (or tear) as opposed to a complete rupture (or tear), and therefore, the anticipated recovery time is far quicker than for a full-blown grade 3 injury.



It goes without saying that I hope I'm not misunderstanding the situation!



I will refrain from commenting further until we have official confirmation of the anticipated recovery time, although I would have thought that the player himself confirming on social media that it's a grade 2 rupture is quite official...

It’s now official on the site. You kept glossing over the fact he has damaged more than one ligament.

[trev]

I am very sorry to read that. Obviously this is information which has just come to light today, none of this information was available yesterday. Terrible news.

[Andy K]

And the lesson today is never look up medical conditions on the web.

Speedy recovery Tommy, not just for the football but for your everyday life too outside of SUFC

[trev]

Oct 3, 2018 12:24:34 GMT Andy K said:

And the lesson today is never look up medical conditions on the web.

Speedy recovery Tommy, not just for the football but for your everyday life too outside of SUFC

Paul Doswell himself confirmed today the fact the injury is a season-ender was not known until after the MRI. The preliminary scan i.e. the one that Tommy tweeted about, did not reveal the full extent of the injury. The simple fact is, no-one knew the full nature and extent of the injury until after the MRI. Turns out it wasn't just a grade 2 after all. 

[garethl]

2 separate things - he said ACL was ruptured.

Lateral Collateral ligament grade 2.

[trev]

Exactly - no confirmation in Tommy's original tweet as to whether the ACL rupture was grade 1, 2 or 3. This wasn't known until the MRI scan which Dos posted about on the official website this afternoon.

[garethl]

Oct 3, 2018 8:49:22 GMT trev said:

Oct 3, 2018 6:23:29 GMT localboy86 said:

Not exactly sure what the ref’s got to do with this injury 🤔 if you’re blaming anyone blame Orients right back Judd who got tangled up with Tommy.

The ref forced Tommy to walk off the field instead of allowing him to receive treatment on the pitch, did he not? I'm no medical expert, but I don't think that's advisable practice when someone's just sustained an ACL injury.

That is absolutely disgraceful for such a serious injury and possibly worthy of action in terms of his immediate refereeing responsibilities. That’s before consideration of his obvious bias in games involving Sutton.

[trev]

I was thinking exactly the same thing as you, Gareth. Especially given the amount of time that Tommy was down for. The ref should have stopped play to allow the obviously injured player to receive immediate on-field treatment. It was extraordinarily bad officiating.

[amberchoc]

Gutted for Tommy and wish him as speedy a recovery as possible. The victory has come at too great a cost.

[Andy K]

Oct 3, 2018 12:39:44 GMT trev said:

Exactly - no confirmation in Tommy's original tweet as to whether the ACL rupture was grade 1, 2 or 3. This wasn't known until the MRI scan which Dos posted about on the official website this afternoon.

I think that's the point. Rupture was known but not to what level. But it was very clear in the original post that it was 2 injuries. And certainly the uncertainty means none of us could predict how long he was out for. Not even Tommy

[trev]

Oct 3, 2018 12:50:33 GMT Andy K said:

Oct 3, 2018 12:39:44 GMT trev said:

Exactly - no confirmation in Tommy's original tweet as to whether the ACL rupture was grade 1, 2 or 3. This wasn't known until the MRI scan which Dos posted about on the official website this afternoon.

I think that's the point. Rupture was known but not to what level. But it was very clear in the original post that it was 2 injuries. And certainly the uncertainty means none of us could predict how long he was out for. Not even Tommy

Agreed. Hence me posting an apology for my misunderstanding [see page 1]. These 12 hour working days are doing wonders for my mental agility! 

[Amber Aleman]

It can take time for the full extent of an injury to become clear. Obviously there's an element of hoping for the best before the complete diagnosis is known.

There was a time when an injury like Tommy's would have ended a player's career. Thankfully, with medical advances, that's unlikely to be the case today. Tommy is still young and so has time on his side. There's every chance that, in the not too distant future, he'll not only be playing again but scoring goals at a higher level than the National League.

[baboonfish]

Awful news, Tommy has really started to hit his stride recently and here's hoping he's back for beginning of next season. Jonah now suddenly looks an absolute key player for us. Him and Lafayette will work well together if Maidstone is anything to go by, and i also think he looks like a player who could lead the line as a lone striker or in a 4-5-1/4-3-3 but we will definitely need one more up top.

Just watched the highlights, absolutely nothing dirty about the full back's challenge, he just gave Tommy a bit of a push and Tommy's landed with what looks like a straight leg and obviously done his knee in, which could have happened anywhere on the pitch, just landing awkwardly.

regards the ref, would be interested to know if an official complaint would be made as surely we have grounds. If a ref's impartiality for one team is rightfully questioned surely he cannot be allowed to ref that team again?

[trev]

Yeah, nothing inherently malicious in the challenge. It was the kind of bog standard foul which any quarter-decent ref would blow up for and award a free kick. And even if the ref didn't think it was a foul, which in itself beggars belief, player safety is paramount and play should have been stopped at the earliest available opportunity to enable a clearly injured player to obtain treatment. It's only right and proper that there are repercussions for the official concerned following on from this incident.