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Post by localboy86 on Nov 22, 2018 9:02:11 GMT
It’s been fairly well documented of late that there might be some player movements afoot with us in need of a striker but probably at the loss of a midfielder in our ranks.
Anyone fancy throwing some names around on both fronts..I’d like us to dip into the league below and bring someone in - fair few gems about. On the debit side I think Beautyman and Taylor might have saved themselves with their performances on Tuesday night.
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Post by surreyu on Nov 22, 2018 9:45:54 GMT
Think it would be pretty disrespectful to speculate on who we think could lose their job. As for the incomings the step up from the conference south is huge, Adam Coombes looked like a gem with his goal scoring record at Welling but he was absolutely awful and looked like he didn’t want to be here.
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Post by Kebab Belly Bob on Nov 22, 2018 10:07:05 GMT
Sorry Localboy but this is not one of your best thread ideas I'm afraid. Our players and management deserve better given that we are still in a play off place and have matched last seasons (our highest ever placing) record already.
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Post by trev on Nov 22, 2018 11:46:48 GMT
I'm reminded of a conversation I had with some Orient supporting friends after our excellent away win at Brisbane Road earlier this season - they asked me for the names of players that our fans like to voice their frustration at.
The question really brought it home that there are no players in our squad that fall into this category. Each and every player in our team is here on merit, we don't have any weak links, and it speaks volumes that the last player to leave us (Ross Lafayette) did so purely for financial reasons.
We've got a quality squad and every man jack of them deserves to be here.
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Post by Del on Nov 22, 2018 11:59:10 GMT
I would guess you would look no further than who doesn't make a regular start but as said before there is no one poor enough to mention with any certainty and i don't believe we would have had to release anyone if we had progressed in the FA Cup. It would be good to think that we could attract a good striker from a lower division but i've no idea who but i'm sure we shall find out soon enough.
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Post by amberinexile on Nov 22, 2018 12:35:35 GMT
Think it would be pretty disrespectful to speculate on who we think could lose their job. As for the incomings the step up from the conference south is huge, Adam Coombes looked like a gem with his goal scoring record at Welling but he was absolutely awful and looked like he didn’t want to be here. Sorry, and all that, but Dos is doing more than speculating right now. He's already said he's a striker light and a midfielder too many, so finger pointing is going to be pretty straightforward. Who's on the fringe and doesn't play regularly will make speculation easier. That's the brutal truth of football on a budget. Personally, I would be looking at replacing a striker for a striker.
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Post by Andy K on Nov 22, 2018 13:50:13 GMT
Dos has been here 10 years plus. And yes it's easy to speculate who may go and who may stay based on previous.
I just question whether it's right to do that sort of speculation on a public forum. Personally I feel that's best left for a chat with your mates down the pub rather than here. Just because some may feel it's easy to speculate, doesn't mean that we should. I'd rather focus on Saturday's game where we face possibly the weakest team in the league. Mind you, weakest teams in the league have come to our place and done a job.
Whatever we speculate or think, no one here picks the team, and no amount of speculation on here will change what our management team put out on the pitch on Saturday. And I'm very happy with that outcome.
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Post by kpinwp on Nov 22, 2018 15:00:05 GMT
It is an awkward one. On the one hand any likely player movement is obviously something that we'd all like to discuss.
On the other hand, in this situation, we might well be having to lose a player in order to balance our numbers, within budget, and through no fault of any individual concerned.
Yeah, one for the bar is probably best.
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Post by brisfitboy on Nov 22, 2018 16:24:18 GMT
I do believe that for a squad such as ours, with limited numbers, having faith in our younger/Academy players is the answer in conjunction with maybe trying a repositioning/rotation of some of our more experienced players.
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Post by davethegrave on Nov 22, 2018 18:23:27 GMT
Dos has been here 10 years plus. And yes it's easy to speculate who may go and who may stay based on previous. I just question whether it's right to do that sort of speculation on a public forum. Personally I feel that's best left for a chat with your mates down the pub rather than here. Just because some may feel it's easy to speculate, doesn't mean that we should. I'd rather focus on Saturday's game where we face possibly the weakest team in the league. Mind you, weakest teams in the league have come to our place and done a job. Whatever we speculate or think, no one here picks the team, and no amount of speculation on here will change what our management team put out on the pitch on Saturday. And I'm very happy with that outcome. Slapped wrist localboy! They don't like that!
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Post by baboonfish on Nov 22, 2018 19:28:31 GMT
I will not say who I think SHOULD go if anyone has to, but its fair to say Easty wont be going anywhere unless a league club come in for him, and ditto Josh Taylor. You would have said Wayne Brown but he got a lot of praise for his performance on Tue and Im sure we havent seen anything near his best yet so its anyones guess. I really hope Dos finds a way to bring in one without letting one go as I think, while we're heavy on midfielders at the moment, they will all get plenty of game time over the rest of the season.
As for speculation on a player coming in, as I havent played football manager much since 2012ish so I couldnt give you any names! It would be lovely to get someone with bags of league experience looking for a late-career swansong though, as our young forwards would benefit so much from an older head who has done it at a higher level. More likely we'll get someone from our league or lower, one of them has to come good sooner or later! I mean old Dave Tarpey had no issue making the step up did he?!
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Post by pinewalker on Nov 22, 2018 21:12:21 GMT
Thanks Localboy for running this hare. This is a fans' forum not an official SUFC page, so a bit of speculation is fair enough. I detect a few of the regular posters on here are either the 'thought police' or living in fear of them.
A Dos interview has to be seen on the video. He admirably tells it how it is, that is the best part, but you can read in his face and tone a bit more than the words reveal. Go back a year or two and you could see his exasperation, followed by rapid exits of strikers who did not strike, particularly if they seemed to pass the responsibility with the ball, rather than have a go. I watched his interview at Slough and concluded his patience had run out again.
The difficulty with the comment 'a midfielder too many' is what constitutes a midfielder. In some set ups there are Strikers and Midfielders but nobody is described as a Winger. So if Sutton's wingers are classed as midfielders then yes we do have one too many midfielders who are not attempting to score themselves and replacing one of them with a player with natural striker's instincts has to be a good idea. If the wingers are a separate category, then I am not sure we do have a spare man in the engine room, but we do have players up front who don't seem to be strikers.
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Post by Andy K on Nov 22, 2018 22:13:36 GMT
Thanks Localboy for running this hare. This is a fans' forum not an official SUFC page, so a bit of speculation is fair enough. I detect a few of the regular posters on here are either the 'thought police' or living in fear of them. A Dos interview has to be seen on the video. He admirably tells it how it is, that is the best part, but you can read in his face and tone a bit more than the words reveal. Go back a year or two and you could see his exasperation, followed by rapid exits of strikers who did not strike, particularly if they seemed to pass the responsibility with the ball, rather than have a go. I watched his interview at Slough and concluded his patience had run out again. The difficulty with the comment 'a midfielder too many' is what constitutes a midfielder. In some set ups there are Strikers and Midfielders but nobody is described as a Winger. So if Sutton's wingers are classed as midfielders then yes we do have one too many midfielders who are not attempting to score themselves and replacing one of them with a player with natural striker's instincts has to be a good idea. If the wingers are a separate category, then I am not sure we do have a spare man in the engine room, but we do have players up front who don't seem to be strikers. Well anyone who uses the thought police argument as an excuse for a lack of self restraint and a lack of respect for those whom we support probably deserves to have their own opinions viewed in the appropriate manner.
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Post by sallycat on Nov 22, 2018 22:38:38 GMT
Here's my 2p worth: I don't think suggesting having a bit of restraint when discussing people's employment status in a public forum really counts as "thought police." Nor do I think fear of said "thought police" is the only reason for doing so. Do you know, some people actually avoid doing crappy things to others out of respect rather than fear? Amazing, innit. In other words, personally, I don't think I'd enjoy it if members of the public were discussing whether I might be about to lose my job.
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Post by VCLXI on Nov 22, 2018 22:58:07 GMT
Here's my 2p worth: I don't think suggesting having a bit of restraint when discussing people's employment status in a public forum really counts as "thought police." Nor do I think fear of said "thought police" is the only reason for doing so. Do you know, some people actually avoid doing crappy things to others out of respect rather than fear? Amazing, innit. In other words, personally, I don't think I'd enjoy it if members of the public were discussing whether I might be about to lose my job. Um.....nail on the head expression springs to mind. I do like talking about potential incoming players, maybe the outgoing should just be left out of discussion. My halfpenny worth.
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