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Post by os on Apr 8, 2016 19:31:33 GMT
I thought that the minimum deduction was 6 points given that we did not admit to the charge. Where does it say this in the rules? 6.9 Playing ineligible player in a match £500 - £2,000 And the points gained in match will be deducted.
AND Any Club found to have played an ineligible player in a match or matches shall have any points gained from that match or matches deducted from its record up to a maximum of 12 points and have levied upon it a fine. The Board may also order that such match or matches be replayed on such terms as are decided by the Board which may also levy penalty points against the Club in default.
The Company may vary this decision in respect of the points gained only in circumstances where the ineligibility is due to the failure to obtain an International Transfer Certificate or where the ineligibility is related to the Player’s status only. www.footballconference.co.uk/uploads/docs/Rules.pdfNo mention about doubling the point's deduction if you deny the charge. Why would we just accept the charge if we think it is incorrect? Anyway, let's leave it here and see what happens. Hopefully the title will be decided on the field either way. I am no expert on this but, note these are league rules, as far as I am aware the charge from the FA. The club has stated it has requested a personal hearing to put its case over. There is no mention of either denial or acceptance as far as I can see. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to work out that our club would never play a ineligible player knowingly, so clearly anything that has happened will be a mistake. It may or may not be that is accepted and no points deduction will occur?
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Post by tonyd on Apr 9, 2016 0:22:29 GMT
Reading the rules, there seems to be very little leeway. A club "shall have" not "could have" points gained deducted. The only exceptions are the two shown in the later paragraph and it doesn't look like its one of those as the statement about the charge refers to information not being lodged with "all the authorities". Also, Slabs has made several appearances but there is only the one charge, so it would seem that the passage of time resolved the issue.
I'm resigned to a 3 point deduction and the need to win still more matches than Ebb/stone to be champions or to come through the play-offs.
Either way, I think this group of players and management can and will do it.
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Post by pajomo2015 on Apr 10, 2016 15:33:16 GMT
Are the club able to advise when the league will be in a position to confirm the outcome of the charge? I accept that this may turn out to be irrelevant as we can do no more than try to win all remaining games but there seems to be some suggestion that the points deduction ( if imposed) could range between 3 and 12 points. Just be good to know ... It's all rather curious and frustrating as to how the situation could have arisen. I cannot believe that the club would have risked using Slabber (particularly in a match that we were comfortably winning) if they had any doubts on his eligibity to play.
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Post by Del on Apr 10, 2016 16:23:06 GMT
Are the club able to advise when the league will be in a position to confirm the outcome of the charge? I accept that this may turn out to be irrelevant as we can do no more than try to win all remaining games but there seems to be some suggestion that the points deduction ( if imposed) could range between 3 and 12 points. Just be good to know ... It's all rather curious and frustrating as to how the situation could have arisen. I cannot believe that the club would have risked using Slabber (particularly in a match that we were comfortably winning) if they had any doubts on his eligibity to play. I doubt it.Far too early to say yet as the club have stated they are asking for a personal hearing.The intention is to win the remaining four games and go up as champions. Talk of anything in excess of 3 points has to be way off the mark in my opinion.
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Post by tonyd on Apr 10, 2016 17:34:38 GMT
It's whatever points you got in the game that the player took part in, therefore maximum is 3 for 1 game, 6 for 2 games, 9 for 3 games and 12 for 4+ games (the maximum penalty that can be applied). Therefore if you played an ineligible player and lost there would be no points penalty. There is of course a fine on top of whatever points deduction you get.
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Post by baboonfish on Apr 11, 2016 10:52:52 GMT
I assume goals scored in the game in question are expunged as well? The title could very well go down to goal difference.....
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Post by Andy K on Apr 11, 2016 11:37:07 GMT
I assume goals scored in the game in question are expunged as well? The title could very well go down to goal difference..... I don't think they do, or if it is it isn't explicit.
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FA Charge
Apr 12, 2016 10:21:20 GMT
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Post by facharge on Apr 12, 2016 10:21:20 GMT
Is it true that the hearing is this afternoon... Both teams will want to know the official outcome before Saturday won't they?
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Post by Del on Apr 12, 2016 12:16:52 GMT
Is it true that the hearing is this afternoon... Both teams will want to know the official outcome before Saturday won't they? No i don't believe it is. I'm sure that the league will however want this sorted before the playoffs.
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Post by Amber Aleman on Apr 12, 2016 12:47:43 GMT
I've heard - unofficially - that the hearing is this Thursday.
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Post by amberchoc on Apr 12, 2016 13:06:13 GMT
Thinking positively, there have been many instances where the F.A. have considered an infringement to be fairly minor (which I would say ours clearly is) and they've only deducted one or two points, sometimes even just fining the club. It would be nice, for both clubs, to know exactly where they stand by Saturday.
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Post by Del on Apr 14, 2016 20:38:54 GMT
Just an observation but the club announcement doesn't appear on the official web site now.
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FA Charge
Apr 14, 2016 20:40:49 GMT
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Post by sallycat on Apr 14, 2016 20:40:49 GMT
Yes I noticed that on Monday. Thought it was odd but there must be a reason.
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Apr 14, 2016 20:47:22 GMT
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Post by jencor on Apr 14, 2016 20:47:22 GMT
I,like others surely have, went on the FA website and scanned down all the charges brought since Jan. We don't appear anywhere! Hope this is sorted soon, it's spoiling the run in! I just want to know where we stand. Loads of rumours and the clubs statement gone from the website.
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Post by Millsy on Apr 14, 2016 21:56:07 GMT
AFC Wimbledon - *serious* misdemeanour reference International Clearance: 18 points gained, 3 points deducted. Minor misdemeanor from Concord, not expelled from competition and reduced sanction applied. Pointless conjecture will prevail and is inevitable, patience is the key but understandably the internet in particular propagates a need and (unrealistic) assertion for immediate gratification to demands on information.
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