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Post by tenorclef on Mar 7, 2019 10:15:54 GMT
Billy,I think that may have been the Mickey Mousers taunting Utd about Munich endlessly, for years, probably didn't help. I'd have to grudgingly admit they're a great club but all the rubbish about them being such a witty, fair minded crowd really grates on me. A shower of murdering bastards would be closer to the truth. Call to the Administrator - can this incendiary post be deleted?
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Post by trev on Mar 7, 2019 11:20:05 GMT
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but medwaysider's closing sentence is excessive and that's putting it mildly.
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Post by Andy K on Mar 7, 2019 11:29:04 GMT
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but medwaysider's closing sentence is excessive and that's putting it mildly. For any posts which members think is beyond acceptable, could they please use the report post button on that post (if you are looking on a mobile, you'll find it in the cog menu). The admins will then review and remove if necessary. Then we can keep track of what's been deleted and for what reason, and users can also remain anonymous from other users about what they report.
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Post by trev on Mar 7, 2019 11:36:58 GMT
Thanks for the advice. For the record, I am not calling for the post to be deleted or for any action to be taken against the poster, I am simply expressing the view that when I first read it, my immediate response was "That's a bit much".
Unless a post crosses the boundaries of what is considered lawful e.g. racial discrimination, then my personal rule of thumb is to let it lie.
Ultimately, I defer to the Administrators as to how they wish the forum to be run.
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Post by sallycat on Mar 7, 2019 13:51:24 GMT
What else I find interesting is how a large majority of the fanbase see Doswell as such an integral part of us achieving league football and how if he was to go we would revert backwards rapidly like the poster said on this page. My understanding of it was that he couldn't manage a club full time due to his commitments in property developing?. I don't think anyone really answered this, so I'll have a go. I don't think the club would spiral downwards if he were to leave, but that's because he and the club's excellent board have done so much work to improve the infrastructure of the club, often in ways that aren't necessarily visible or otherwise obvious to fans. This isn't a club that spends any extra money they come into on players, goes for a quick short term boost to the team's success rather than more sensible investments and then crashes and burns when the money inevitably runs out. That never has happened at Sutton and never will unless something drastically changes about how the club is run. Having said that, there's no doubt whatsoever that the club would be in a worse position than it is now if Paul Doswell had never come on board. Before he did, we had something of a reputation as unambitious, old-fashioned plodders. Which may not have been entirely unwarranted. The club wasn't entirely resistant to change but hadn't quite entered the 21st century yet. When Dos arrived he immediately started looking at making changes to things that wouldn't normally be within the remit of the team's manager. He works really well with the board, they're a fantastic team and come up with some cracking ideas between them. The potential was always there to do great things but Dos was the catalyst and it might be hard to maintain the same trajectory of success without that. And he didn't sit back after achieving those things, he is continually looking for ways to make things even better. So that's why those of us who've been around a bit longer see Dos as inextricably tied to the success of the club, although let's not forget we have an amazing chairman too, plus loads of other people doing indispensable work behind the scenes. By the way, if we did go full time, there's no reason why the rest of the management team couldn't cover when Dos was dealing with his other commitments.
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Post by pinewalker on Mar 7, 2019 18:07:27 GMT
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but medwaysider's closing sentence is excessive and that's putting it mildly. While I would not express it in that language, I share Medwaysider's opinion of the crowds I encountered as a regular away fan on Merseyside from 1973 to 2010. The difference in the welcome from the gentlemen of Everton and the other lot across Stanley Park was total. And if you beat them - whew! You heaved a sigh of relief when you got back to Lime St in one piece.
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Post by trev on Mar 7, 2019 18:48:36 GMT
I think the same could arguably be said of several other top flight sides. As a lifelong West Ham fan, I'm certainly not in a position to cast aspersions on other teams, let's put it that way.
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Post by medwaysider on Mar 7, 2019 20:01:21 GMT
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but medwaysider's closing sentence is excessive and that's putting it mildly. While I would not express it in that language, I share Medwaysider's opinion of the crowds I encountered as a regular away fan on Merseyside from 1973 to 2010. The difference in the welcome from the gentlemen of Everton and the other lot across Stanley Park was total. And if you beat them - whew! You heaved a sigh of relief when you got back to Lime St in one piece. And in fairness, I probably shouldn't have expressed it in quite that way. But I don't retract the sentiment at all. What irritates me so much is how the media swallow the myth of LFC being "the greatest supporters in the world". The rose tinted glasses come on (Motson was the worst for this IMO) as they speak of another famous European night at Anfield. What sort of a night is that? Another one where the turnstiles are stormed or an opposition coach is bricked? Then there's the sheer hypocrisy. Hillsborough was a tragedy of epic proportions and let's face it, it could've happened anywhere to any club in that era. South Yorks police were infamous at demonising all football fans, cheered on by the likes of Moynihan and Thatcher. I wouldn't argue against that. But talk to the bulk of Liverpool fans and they'll find some excuse to mitigate Heysel. Either the ground was crap or it wasn't a typical Liverpool crowd or even more ridiculously, because of their experience in Rome the previous year against a totally different club, and one notorious for thuggery, then and now. But they were to blame. It's entirely their fault that 39 people never came home. I agree with you about Everton fans Pinewalker. Completely different set of supporters. As I saw on one of their banners a couple of years ago "Unlike our neighbours, we don't knock down walls".
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Post by medwaysider on Mar 7, 2019 20:09:34 GMT
I think the same could arguably be said of several other top flight sides. As a lifelong West Ham fan, I'm certainly not in a position to cast aspersions on other teams, let's put it that way. I understand that. West Ham, Chelsea, Leeds, Millwall, Cardiff, Stoke........the list goes on. But what's the significant difference there Trev? All those clubs have been (rightly) outed for the exploits of their scummy, anti-social, violent element and all of those clubs have taken giant strides to rid themselves of the problem. But LFC? No. Always somebody else's fault. They are offended by everything and ashamed of nothing.
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Post by Andy K on Mar 7, 2019 20:21:07 GMT
Who remembers the time some of us got attacked at Merthyr station?
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Post by medwaysider on Mar 7, 2019 20:32:40 GMT
Who remembers the time some of us got attacked at Merthyr station? Blimey, never realised Merthyr was dodgy. I've got an aunt in Cardiff and I'm planning on doing a bit of groundhopping on the last weekend of April while my dad catches up with her. Barry Town on the Friday night and Merthyr on the Saturday. Am I going to be burned at the stake for being a "cockney"?
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Post by Andy K on Mar 7, 2019 20:35:40 GMT
Who remembers the time some of us got attacked at Merthyr station? Blimey, never realised Merthyr was dodgy. I've got an aunt in Cardiff and I'm planning on doing a bit of groundhopping on the last weekend of April while my dad catches up with her. Barry Town on the Friday night and Merthyr on the Saturday. Am I going to be burned at the stake for being a "cockney"? Not unless you travel back in time to 1990...
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Post by Amber Aleman on Mar 7, 2019 20:40:04 GMT
Who remembers the time some of us got attacked at Merthyr station? I remember that. And Aylesbury in the FA Cup. It can happen in the unlikeliest places.
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Post by medwaysider on Mar 7, 2019 20:52:24 GMT
Blimey, never realised Merthyr was dodgy. I've got an aunt in Cardiff and I'm planning on doing a bit of groundhopping on the last weekend of April while my dad catches up with her. Barry Town on the Friday night and Merthyr on the Saturday. Am I going to be burned at the stake for being a "cockney"? Not unless you travel back in time to 1990... That sounds appealing in one respect - I can buy myself a replacement Sony Walkman!
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Post by medwaysider on Mar 7, 2019 20:53:27 GMT
Who remembers the time some of us got attacked at Merthyr station? I remember that. And Aylesbury in the FA Cup. It can happen in the unlikeliest places. Certainly can. I know a couple of Chatham Town fans who said it got a bit hairy at Wisbech of all places
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