oohaah
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Post by oohaah on Mar 15, 2020 12:01:22 GMT
To those that knew we were going on a three week cruise, we are back safely after what amounts to a day trip to Dubai.
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Post by os on Mar 15, 2020 18:32:17 GMT
What disappoints me, is not that people have varying views on this, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and up until the government imposes restriction, their right to go about their business as they feel fit.
What is totally unacceptable to me is that people who are worried and even scared of this virus should be made to take part in events against their will. I really hope there is some compassion on here for players who did that yesterday.
I did not go yesterday as I like to enjoy my football, I also want players and others involved in the game to feel confident. I feel that we should stop playing until such time as that confidence returns to all.
Yes just my opinion.
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kpinwp
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Post by kpinwp on Mar 15, 2020 18:59:53 GMT
What disappoints me, is not that people have varying views on this, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and up until the government imposes restriction, their right to go about their business as they feel fit. What is totally unacceptable to me is that people who are worried and even scared of this virus should be made to take part in events against their will. I really hope there is some compassion on here for players who did that yesterday. I did not go yesterday as I like to enjoy my football, I also want players and others involved in the game to feel confident. I feel that we should stop playing until such time as that confidence returns to all. Yes just my opinion. Do you feel that some of the players who took part in yesterday's match did so under some form of duress? If so, do you have some evidence to that effect? Have they expressed that opinion, in some form? I mean about sometimg more concrete than the unease that many of us are probably experiencing in, say, using public transport to get to work. Which we still pretty much have to do. I appreciate that you're offing this as a opinion, only. But you do seem to imply that what took place yesterday, and those of us who took part in it, were somehow 'wrong'. I'd have to disagree with that. |
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Post by os on Mar 15, 2020 19:25:23 GMT
What disappoints me, is not that people have varying views on this, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and up until the government imposes restriction, their right to go about their business as they feel fit. What is totally unacceptable to me is that people who are worried and even scared of this virus should be made to take part in events against their will. I really hope there is some compassion on here for players who did that yesterday. I did not go yesterday as I like to enjoy my football, I also want players and others involved in the game to feel confident. I feel that we should stop playing until such time as that confidence returns to all. Yes just my opinion. Do you feel that some of the players who took part in yesterday's match did so under some form of duress? If so, do you have some evidence to that effect? The answer is yes, and it is in the public domain so its not hidden. I stress not the fault of any club or fan that went yesterday, I blame the league. |
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kpinwp
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Post by kpinwp on Mar 15, 2020 19:34:23 GMT
Do you feel that some of the players who took part in yesterday's match did so under some form of duress? If so, do you have some evidence to that effect? The answer is yes, and it is in the public domain so its not hidden. I stress not the fault of any club or fan that went yesterday, I blame the league. I've seen nothing myself. Could you point me in the right direction? Or a general direction? |
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Post by os on Mar 15, 2020 19:37:20 GMT
OK, Well you should look at at our players Twitter accounts - Many teams did not want to play yesterday in the NL and of course a number were called off. There is also this today from Wayne Rooney : www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51896488 |
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Post by kpinwp on Mar 15, 2020 20:09:26 GMT
OK, Well you should look at at our players Twitter accounts - Many teams did not want to play yesterday in the NL and of course a number were called off. There is also this today from Wayne Rooney : www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51896488Ok, I've checked twitter accounts of 10 of our players who were on the pitch yesterday (haven't got time to do more). I'm honestly seeing nothing. Unless I'm doing it wrongly, but twitter is hardly complex. So, at worst, if anxieties have been expressed, then it's very far from being a consensus. In a situation like this nearly all of us will be getting anxious. Understandably. But that doesn't mean we should stop doing the things we're supposed to do. Like (at the risk of being a little hardcore) our jobs, for example. Not too fussed about the opinion of Wayne Rooney, tbh. |
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Post by sallycat on Mar 15, 2020 20:39:53 GMT
Not particularly wanting to post links, but I also saw tweets from at least 2 of our players who were clearly not happy about the game(s) going ahead. They clearly did not let it affect their performance.
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Post by Del on Mar 15, 2020 20:55:01 GMT
To be honest i'm not too sure what the players fears are as they are playing football in an open atmosphere.Unless they get coughed upon by an opponent then there is much more chance of contacting this virus in many other ways.
Life has to go on and fit healthy guys of their age seem to have very little chance of this affecting them. Wayne Rooney knows that he will still be getting his pay check come what may but others in lower leagues may not and unless the FA can help financially clubs will go bust.
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Post by Nick the Greek/The Speshul One on Mar 15, 2020 21:00:24 GMT
To be honest i'm not too sure what the players fears are as they are playing football in an open atmosphere.Unless they get coughed upon by an opponent then there is much more chance of contacting this virus in many other ways. Life has to go on and fit healthy guys of their age seem to have very little chance of this affecting them. Wayne Rooney knows that he will still be getting his pay check come what may but others in lower leagues may not and unless the FA can help financially clubs will go bust. What about their families. Who do they see on a regular basis? I can’t fault players for having concerns about playing considering many other leagues had decided to call all games off. This is not about fit and healthy individuals this is about those at risk and trying to pass it to them. We still don’t fully understand this but underlying health issue or health deteriorating with age are reportedly more at risk. Fans had the choice to go, players didn’t really have the choice to play. |
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Post by kpinwp on Mar 15, 2020 21:00:33 GMT
Not particularly wanting to post links, but I also saw tweets from at least 2 of our players who were clearly not happy about the game(s) going ahead. They clearly did not let it affect their performance. Fair enough, and thank you. But, still not what one would call a consensus. Personally I'm not exactly happy about going to work on a crowded tube train most days, right now. Especially as I look after an infirm and elderly relative who would not fare well if I caught this virus and transmitted it to her. But it's what I have to do, for now, if I want to get paid. I also work in an entertainments business so what I do is not vital to the running of the country. But, thus far, I try not to let this effect my performance either. |
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Post by Del on Mar 15, 2020 21:05:29 GMT
To be honest i'm not too sure what the players fears are as they are playing football in an open atmosphere.Unless they get coughed upon by an opponent then there is much more chance of contacting this virus in many other ways. Life has to go on and fit healthy guys of their age seem to have very little chance of this affecting them. Wayne Rooney knows that he will still be getting his pay check come what may but others in lower leagues may not and unless the FA can help financially clubs will go bust. What about their families. Who do they see on a regular basis? I can’t fault players for having concerns about playing considering many other leagues had decided to call all games off. This is not about fit and healthy individuals this is about those at risk and trying to pass it to them. We still don’t fully understand this but underlying health issue or health deteriorating with age are reportedly more at risk. Fans had the choice to go, players didn’t really have the choice to play. No they probably didn't but if you read my first paragraph the chances of contracting this on a football pitch are minute. |
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Post by medwaysider on Mar 15, 2020 21:09:00 GMT
I'm pretty sure that if any given player had felt as strongly as that prior to the game then the club would have respected their wish and allowed them to sit it out. To not think that, in my opinion does the club a disservice and is a borderline slur.
As for Wayne Rooney, dear me the Sunday Times has clearly gone downhill if they're employing him as a columnist.
For my part, I had a very nice day out on the north eastern coast. Lunch in a lovely pub by the sea (hardly any tables going spare, great to see) followed by a quick stroll along the beach (plenty of surfers, dogwalkers etc going about their business as usual), then onwards to South Shields v FC United in front of a full house of 3,274 which included some supporters from Nottingham Forest and West Brom who, once their own games were cancelled, decided to travel for their fix of football.
Great, open, attacking game which South Shields won 5-3. Virtually everyone stayed behind afterwards to applaud the team who all looked happy to be there, in fact on cloud nine after a result like that against the team in second place. They did a lap of the field. The FC United fans and players clearly also have a strong bond with one another as well, despite being a clear second best on the day they were rightly given a fantastic reception by their own fans and then applauded off the field by the home fans. One of those days that I'll remember for a long time and in an extremely positive way.
I'm sure both players and fans alike knew the reality that they won't be enjoying occasions like this again for the foreseeable future so everyone made the most of it.
Good to see Sutton enjoying a higher than average crowd due to fans of other clubs being attracted to the fixture for similar reasons.
I'm 99.9% certain that all games even at county level will be off next weekend. If (and it's a remote if) the FA Vase SF 1st leg between Kent side Corinthian FC and Hebburn Town goes ahead, that's where I'll be. Failing that it'll have to be a nice pub lunch somewhere in the country.
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kpinwp
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Post by kpinwp on Mar 15, 2020 21:12:27 GMT
To be honest i'm not too sure what the players fears are as they are playing football in an open atmosphere.Unless they get coughed upon by an opponent then there is much more chance of contacting this virus in many other ways. Life has to go on and fit healthy guys of their age seem to have very little chance of this affecting them. Wayne Rooney knows that he will still be getting his pay check come what may but others in lower leagues may not and unless the FA can help financially clubs will go bust. What about their families. Who do they see on a regular basis? I can’t fault players for having concerns about playing considering many other leagues had decided to call all games off. This is not about fit and healthy individuals this is about those at risk and trying to pass it to them. We still don’t fully understand this but underlying health issue or health deteriorating with age are reportedly more at risk. Fans had the choice to go, players didn’t really have the choice to play. I see your point. But this only really carries weight if (at the same time) all of the players are also finding themselves able to avoid gyms, pubs, clubs, all public transport, supermarkets and any other public workplaces they might be obliged to go to. I take no pleasure in that, but is that not the case? |
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Post by Nick the Greek/The Speshul One on Mar 15, 2020 21:13:29 GMT
What about their families. Who do they see on a regular basis? I can’t fault players for having concerns about playing considering many other leagues had decided to call all games off. This is not about fit and healthy individuals this is about those at risk and trying to pass it to them. We still don’t fully understand this but underlying health issue or health deteriorating with age are reportedly more at risk. Fans had the choice to go, players didn’t really have the choice to play. No they probably didn't but if you read my first paragraph the chances of contracting this on a football pitch are minute. I wish I could believe that, but where have all these players been that caught it? Mass gatherings? And then when one person has it, it seems to spread very easily. At football you have to be in close proximity to other people if you want to do your job properly. I can just understand why other leagues cancelled their fixtures and can understand why some players, management and staff (not just at Sutton) would think not cancelling the NL was a bad idea. |
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