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Post by garethl on Feb 4, 2022 15:05:16 GMT
Ok, what difference would it make if those sides filled the away end as opposed to Port Vale, Tranmere, Bristol Rovers, Swindon, Northampton, Orient, possibly Crawley, Mansfield, Bradford, Oldham, Exeter? I don’t understand the point. The capacity is the limiting factor and we’ve had no problems filling the stadium in the past. Yes there are many things we’d like to improve and offer which will come in time but I don’t get what the difference is in putting on a game in League 1 versus League 2. We need to add to what we can offer in either league which will happen in time. Those games will attract more neutrals not to mention hundreds of London based fans of those clubs who will come and watch in the home support. I mean, the club has said tickets for Bristol rovers might not be available on the day, what's it going to be like for Sheff Wed or Sunderland? L1 has some huge clubs with significant supporter bases in London. The club will not get anywhere near the value it would from those sort of games with the ground a work in progress. If L1 did happen to be a one time deal (like daggers), it would be a shame to miss out on the revenue. That is my point. Yes it's not make or break but when you add up half time bar revenue, and say 500-1000 extra full price ticket sales lost for the 6 or so big home games, that is a lot of lost revenue. Not make or break but surely it's preferable for us to be in a position to make the most of it. Maybe the club will be able to do all that work in the close season, if we went up, but it seems unlikely. 2 or 3 seasons down the line however, I'd expect GGL to be a significantly better ground. What it will be like is all ticket and sold out I’d imagine. A nice problem to have I’d say. Yes agreed not maximising revenue but changes on capacity will take a fair while to come in (other than the bits round the fringes for the away end). Whether we can take more of a leap on catering etc. also unknown to me but would guess it may well be tied in to the capacity. I also don’t know what are arrangements are currently in place for the away section catering wise but I’m sure a pop up bar and food area round the back would make a nice wedge 😀. Comes with other problems as well of course! Obviously understand where you’re coming from but there isn’t a lot we can do other than keep trying to improve bit by bit. And I don’t think league 1 vs league 2 changes the equation. As Andy rightfully says I’m sure the board are planning the improvements as best we can as and when funds become available. |
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Post by timall on Feb 4, 2022 17:34:07 GMT
For what its worth I agree this isn't the best thread to talk about this and a devoted one may be better - though I won't guarantee I will regularly contribute to it if it is created and "pinned" to the top.
However, we are challenged by the problems Matt has created for us, but they are nice problems to have! It's also a challenge that due to EFL rules we are having to concentrate so much of our initial requirements into the playing season, which is difficult operationally (and not ideal financially either!). That won't necessarily be the case going forward.
We are having to balance expenditure now, and its financial return later, as we get the capacity to allow more into the ground. Some expenditures are larger than others - some paybacks are sooner than others.
We are also conscious that much of our development at the moment benefits away spectators and not home ones. There is a financial reality that we can sell additional tickets to visiting clubs with large demand exceeding current capacity easier than at the home end where we are not (yet) selling out - although Matt and the team are attracting ever more support and working on that too!
The next phase (and some current minor works) will begin to address this imbalance.
As usual, feel free to catch me (or others) on matchdays, to chat about our thinking - and let us know what we have forgotten or got wrong!
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Post by baboonfish on Feb 4, 2022 18:03:37 GMT
For what its worth I agree this isn't the best thread to talk about this and a devoted one may be better - though I won't guarantee I will regularly contribute to it if it is created and "pinned" to the top. However, we are challenged by the problems Matt has created for us, but they are nice problems to have! It's also a challenge that due to EFL rules we are having to concentrate so much of our initial requirements into the playing season, which is difficult operationally (and not ideal financially either!). That won't necessarily be the case going forward. We are having to balance expenditure now, and its financial return later, as we get the capacity to allow more into the ground. Some expenditures are larger than others - some paybacks are sooner than others. We are also conscious that much of our development at the moment benefits away spectators and not home ones. There is a financial reality that we can sell additional tickets to visiting clubs with large demand exceeding current capacity easier than at the home end where we are not (yet) selling out - although Matt and the team are attracting ever more support and working on that too! The next phase (and some current minor works) will begin to address this imbalance. As usual, feel free to catch me (or others) on matchdays, to chat about our thinking - and let us know what we have forgotten or got wrong! Agree, it definitely deserves it's own thread and yes, these are good problems to have. I'm sure nowhere in the club's plans did it include possible promotion to L1 in 2022!! Let's see how we're looking after Feb's mad run of games, if we're still in touch with the top 3 I'm sure the debate will rear its head. |
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Post by sufc18 on Feb 4, 2022 19:30:56 GMT
For what its worth I agree this isn't the best thread to talk about this and a devoted one may be better - though I won't guarantee I will regularly contribute to it if it is created and "pinned" to the top. However, we are challenged by the problems Matt has created for us, but they are nice problems to have! It's also a challenge that due to EFL rules we are having to concentrate so much of our initial requirements into the playing season, which is difficult operationally (and not ideal financially either!). That won't necessarily be the case going forward. We are having to balance expenditure now, and its financial return later, as we get the capacity to allow more into the ground. Some expenditures are larger than others - some paybacks are sooner than others. We are also conscious that much of our development at the moment benefits away spectators and not home ones. There is a financial reality that we can sell additional tickets to visiting clubs with large demand exceeding current capacity easier than at the home end where we are not (yet) selling out - although Matt and the team are attracting ever more support and working on that too! The next phase (and some current minor works) will begin to address this imbalance. As usual, feel free to catch me (or others) on matchdays, to chat about our thinking - and let us know what we have forgotten or got wrong! Or even what you’ve got right! 😉 |
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Post by Stewart on Feb 4, 2022 19:53:55 GMT
For what its worth I agree this isn't the best thread to talk about this and a devoted one may be better - though I won't guarantee I will regularly contribute to it if it is created and "pinned" to the top. However, we are challenged by the problems Matt has created for us, but they are nice problems to have! It's also a challenge that due to EFL rules we are having to concentrate so much of our initial requirements into the playing season, which is difficult operationally (and not ideal financially either!). That won't necessarily be the case going forward. We are having to balance expenditure now, and its financial return later, as we get the capacity to allow more into the ground. Some expenditures are larger than others - some paybacks are sooner than others. We are also conscious that much of our development at the moment benefits away spectators and not home ones. There is a financial reality that we can sell additional tickets to visiting clubs with large demand exceeding current capacity easier than at the home end where we are not (yet) selling out - although Matt and the team are attracting ever more support and working on that too! The next phase (and some current minor works) will begin to address this imbalance. As usual, feel free to catch me (or others) on matchdays, to chat about our thinking - and let us know what we have forgotten or got wrong![/quote ]Agree, it definitely deserves it's own thread and yes, these are good problems to have. I'm sure nowhere in the club's plans did it include possible promotion to L1 in 2022!! Let's see how we're looking after Feb's mad run of games, if we're still in touch with the top 3 I'm sure the debate will rear its head. We could just rename the current thread, would you all be happy with that? |
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Post by oohaah on Feb 4, 2022 21:34:02 GMT
But then where would we find all that interesting info about tonight's matches?
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Post by oohaah on Feb 4, 2022 21:39:22 GMT
But then where would we find all that interesting info about tonight's matches? Seriously though, if we want to do this (a good idea I think) then we need to request a friendly neighborhood modulator to split this thread. Somebody Greek or Cypriot spring to mind. |
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Post by Stewart on Feb 7, 2022 14:05:55 GMT
The predicted final table (and our points are based on the following predicted results: Sutton United 2 0 Bristol Rovers (w) Sutton United 2 0 Salford City (W) Sutton United 1 1 Forest Green Rovers (D) Bristol Rovers 2 1 Sutton United (L) Hartlepool United 1 1 Sutton United (D) Sutton United 3 0 Scunthorpe United (W) Sutton United 2 0 Rochdale (W) Walsall 2 1 Sutton United (L) Swindon Town 1 1 Sutton United (D) Sutton United 1 0 Tranmere Rovers (W) Oldham Athletic 1 2 Sutton United (W) Port Vale 2 1 Sutton United (L) Sutton United 2 0 Crawley Town (W) Sutton United 2 0 Leyton Orient (W) Mansfield Town 3 1 Sutton United (L) Sutton United 2 1 Newport County (W) Barrow 1 1 Sutton United (D) Sutton United 1 0 Bradford City (W) Harrogate Town 2 1 Sutton United (L) W10 D 4 L 5 Maybe worth returning back to this after each result! For reference, FWP had us losing 2-0 at Carlisle at the weekend. They It got the last two wrong, let’s hope it does not continue tomorrow🤞🏼 |
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Post by Andy K on Feb 7, 2022 15:39:55 GMT
FWP usually updates the predicted scores after each round of fixtures. They still have us winning 2-0 tomorrow but we're now predicted to finish 4th.
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Post by Del on Feb 7, 2022 17:31:04 GMT
It is all done by a computer and really just a bit of fun. I wouldn't take it too seriously !
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Post by Stewart on Feb 7, 2022 18:01:22 GMT
It is all done by a computer and really just a bit of fun. I wouldn't take it too seriously ! I have therefore edited my post😉 |
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