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Post by eagle1974 on Feb 22, 2022 19:13:50 GMT
This new seated stand is pretty much the same as the one built just a year ago at nearby Dorking Wanderers. (albeit Dorking have red coloured seats) It is built by Stadium Solutions, and is basically a modular structure. Once the foundations are in, the stand itself only takes a week to put up. Dorking have 5 rows of seats and a total seated capacity of 289, so very similar capacity and size. At Dorking, the adjacent covered standing terrace is ever so slightly set back compared to the seated stand, so that the seated fans lateral sightlines are not comprimised by standing fans to their side. The pitch perimiter rail in front of the seated stand is lower that the rail in front of the standing terrace, for sightline reasons
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Post by tonyd on Feb 22, 2022 19:45:01 GMT
Well, the fact that it appears that some of the advertising boards around the fence seem to have been removed to take the photo, doesn’t exactly reassure! You're basing your assumption of not fit for purpose on one, slightly so-so, photo? As I suggested earlier in this thread; perhaps consider the nature of angles in photography? Foreshortening, etc? I dunno. Maybe just ask to see some more photos? Different angles? No, I’m basing my assumption on long experience of stands installed at ground level. And in sitting in the existing away stand at an SCR game.
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Post by oohaah on Feb 22, 2022 19:52:33 GMT
It makes the covered terracing look tiny. I do hope when it is moved back it goes in at a similar height to the new stand roof with terracing in front. We WERE told in AB's last communication that the old terrace was going to go back and up, so that should sort it.
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Post by kpinwp on Feb 22, 2022 23:48:06 GMT
You're basing your assumption of not fit for purpose on one, slightly so-so, photo? As I suggested earlier in this thread; perhaps consider the nature of angles in photography? Foreshortening, etc? I dunno. Maybe just ask to see some more photos? Different angles? No, I’m basing my assumption on long experience of stands installed at ground level. And in sitting in the existing away stand at an SCR game. We should probably just take the whole thing down now, then? It's clearly not going to work out. I must confess, I once sat in a seat that I wasn't 100% happy with. I wouldn't want anyone else's life wrecked in that way.
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Post by Del on Feb 23, 2022 8:25:05 GMT
It looks nice and increases the capacity and i would assume that we have got some form of grant to bring our stadium up to the required capacity. Personally if i pay to sit down i would like a seat that looks down on the pitch so it will be interesting to hear how the opposition supporters find it.
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Post by tonyd on Feb 23, 2022 8:33:33 GMT
No, I’m basing my assumption on long experience of stands installed at ground level. And in sitting in the existing away stand at an SCR game. We should probably just take the whole thing down now, then? It's clearly not going to work out. I must confess, I once sat in a seat that I wasn't 100% happy with. I wouldn't want anyone else's life wrecked in that way. Good suggestion, except ground grading requires us to have a minimum number of seats.
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Post by garethl on Feb 23, 2022 8:39:03 GMT
It does the job to get our ground grading requirements and will certainly be an improvement on dead space!! I’m sure if money wasn’t a consideration we’d all love to double the size of the terrace/seating in that away area behind the goal. But finances will dictate what we can do (and potentially planning, though I’d be surprised if that were an issue in that area being well away from anything and with ample space behind) and with the additional terracing the other side of the blue tardis we’ll be able to provide a reasonable away capacity now which should generate good money. I doubt there are many sides in league 2 that will need more than 1-1.2k tickets wise. We also need to remember that we’ll need to be doing a second phase of work to add another 1,000 seats (which will be in the home area) by the end of our 3rd season (we have to plan for that right!) in the EFL so we need to plan and set aside money for that. Better to spend more money there.
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Post by is4 on Feb 23, 2022 11:47:24 GMT
Have just been round the ground to collect Wigan tickets. Have had a look at the new stand. It's looking good. Saw A B and he said he would be doing another update soon. THANKS A B. He also mentioned the ad boards in front of the stand will be lower.so there should be no problem with watching the game.
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Post by silverf0x on Feb 23, 2022 11:58:08 GMT
It will enhance that end of the ground. However I wouldn’t want to watch a game seated from that stand. Much too low for a decent view of the pitch. Couldn't agree more, Stewart. Why the Collingwood Terrace was built so low beats me, it's below the level of the pitch! I wish I'd had some input at the time, but "God" ruled! I had my doubts again when I saw the level of the base for the new seating, no levels were shown on the drawings. What ought to have happened is for the seating to be set at a decent height for viewing, perhaps even to allow for some standing in front, the existing terrace construction unbolted, and the new extention carried through, in the same way. (I'll probably gets some flak for this!) The whole end is too low, no vision in the planning, bad vision the result. Have you changed your mind, Stewart?
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Post by Stewart on Feb 23, 2022 12:53:49 GMT
Couldn't agree more, Stewart. Why the Collingwood Terrace was built so low beats me, it's below the level of the pitch! I wish I'd had some input at the time, but "God" ruled! I had my doubts again when I saw the level of the base for the new seating, no levels were shown on the drawings. What ought to have happened is for the seating to be set at a decent height for viewing, perhaps even to allow for some standing in front, the existing terrace construction unbolted, and the new extention carried through, in the same way. (I'll probably gets some flak for this!) The whole end is too low, no vision in the planning, bad vision the result. Have you changed your mind, Stewart? NO. As Del said on an earlier post I would prefer to look down on the pitch. However I do appreciate the costs involved in raising stands and terraces.
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Post by sufc1898 on Feb 23, 2022 15:00:34 GMT
Am I missing something here?? This is a seated terrace for away fans?? So why are our fans so worried about the view?? The club would have done its research to make sure it’s falls in line with all EFL regulations. The view (with respect to the away fans) is not the most important thing.
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Post by brian on Feb 23, 2022 15:31:41 GMT
While the advertising boards are being made smaller could those along the front of the grandstand be made smaller or lowered to improve the restricted view those sitting in the front row enjoy?
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Post by Del on Feb 23, 2022 15:36:53 GMT
It does the job to get our ground grading requirements and will certainly be an improvement on dead space!! I’m sure if money wasn’t a consideration we’d all love to double the size of the terrace/seating in that away area behind the goal. But finances will dictate what we can do (and potentially planning, though I’d be surprised if that were an issue in that area being well away from anything and with ample space behind) and with the additional terracing the other side of the blue tardis we’ll be able to provide a reasonable away capacity now which should generate good money. I doubt there are many sides in league 2 that will need more than 1-1.2k tickets wise. We also need to remember that we’ll need to be doing a second phase of work to add another 1,000 seats (which will be in the home area) by the end of our 3rd season (we have to plan for that right!) in the EFL so we need to plan and set aside money for that. Better to spend more money there. I may have this wrong but isn't the terracing the other side of the tardis going to be for home fans once the existing terracing behind the goal is extended backwards. I seem to remember it is only for away fans whilst the work goes on. Also i believe we get grants to upgrade the stadium to the required capacity which won't be available once we reach our target.
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Post by Stewart on Feb 23, 2022 15:59:20 GMT
It does the job to get our ground grading requirements and will certainly be an improvement on dead space!! I’m sure if money wasn’t a consideration we’d all love to double the size of the terrace/seating in that away area behind the goal. But finances will dictate what we can do (and potentially planning, though I’d be surprised if that were an issue in that area being well away from anything and with ample space behind) and with the additional terracing the other side of the blue tardis we’ll be able to provide a reasonable away capacity now which should generate good money. I doubt there are many sides in league 2 that will need more than 1-1.2k tickets wise. We also need to remember that we’ll need to be doing a second phase of work to add another 1,000 seats (which will be in the home area) by the end of our 3rd season (we have to plan for that right!) in the EFL so we need to plan and set aside money for that. Better to spend more money there. I may have this wrong but isn't the terracing the other side of the tardis going to be for home fans once the existing terracing behind the goal is extended backwards. I seem to remember it is only for away fans whilst the work goes on. Also i believe we get grants to upgrade the stadium to the required capacity which won't be available once we reach our target. It will be for both. It will be used for away fans if the demand is there.
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Post by Del on Feb 23, 2022 16:03:05 GMT
I may have this wrong but isn't the terracing the other side of the tardis going to be for home fans once the existing terracing behind the goal is extended backwards. I seem to remember it is only for away fans whilst the work goes on. Also i believe we get grants to upgrade the stadium to the required capacity which won't be available once we reach our target. It will be for both. It will be used for away fans if the demand is there. That's interesting to know. Thanks Stewart
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